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Msg # 2 20-Feb-1988  9:48 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ALL
Subject: "The system."


   Well! This day has been hell for the system but we came out of it! Yes The
system is RE-Born in a sense... But all the messages were lost (and some
users) so Lets start over!?


-Derec


Msg # 3 20-Feb-1988  9:55 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAZARUS LONG
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Really? - Reply to # 2

  There was a crash??

  All the messages were lost??

    And I  thought I was just catching up with the times....



Msg # 4 20-Feb-1988 10:01 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAZARUS LONG
To: ALL
Subject: Rumors....

  I have heard it rumored that I am "out of telecom"...  I wish to say that
that is most definitely NOT true, I am not out of telecom.

  It is merely that my life outside of telecom (yes, there is such a thing) has
been busy as hell lately, and I've been unable to be home (alone) enough to
use the computer.  Mayhaps at some point in the future I will have more free
time (and then again....) and will call more often.

  However, until that point, I will continue to call sporadically at best.
This is not saying that I'm forgetting all of you guys, and I'll still welcome
phone calls (if I'm home, which is doubtful).

  So, that little point of business concluded, I'm going to eat supper.  I'll
be talking to y'all later...

            Laz



Msg # 5 20-Feb-1988 10:20 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ALL
Subject: [Question]

   After seeing tonight's episode of STTNG, I would like to ask a question to
you all:

   If you were given the chance to grow up with aliens who had far greater
technology than we do, would you do so even if it meant never seeing your
biological parents ever again?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 6 20-Feb-1988 10:22 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [The Crash of '88]

   Well, look at it this way... At least the Fugitive Guy isn't missing much
now...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 7 20-Feb-1988 10:24 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [AD&D game]

   It's just as well we hadn't started our AD&D game up yet... I'm still trying
to decide about which adventure to use. Should I use a TSR module for
character levels 1-5? I'm not terribly good at making up my own, I'm afraid.
   What are our participants interested in, hmmm? I would like some input and
opinions from you out there, so...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 9 20-Feb-1988 10:41 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: [Crash]

Laura,

   Guess what! While you were gone, we had a total systems crash! Everything is
absolutely gonzo! Wiped clean!
   See what happens when we leave them alone for a week??!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 10 20-Feb-1988 10:45 P.M.
Public message on Humor
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ALL
Subject: [Poll]

   Excuse me, sir or madam (or whatever). I am taking a poll for no apparent
reason. Would you mind answering one small question? I knew you would.
   Which sounds better, "snot" or "nasal mucus?"
   Thank you for your support.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 11 20-Feb-1988 11:01 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: COUNT ZERO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Reply - Reply to # 5

   But of course!

                            -0



Msg # 12 20-Feb-1988 11:03 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: COUNT ZERO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: ?!?!?!?! - Reply to # 9

   I resent that!!!!

                          -0



Msg # 13 20-Feb-1988 11:21 P.M.
Public message on Non Fiction
From: COUNT ZERO
To: ALL
Subject: tragedy...

   I am sad to say that around noon-ish today, we lost a dear friend.
A friend that has faithfully stood by us for several months now, is now gone.
Yes, today the old NETWORK XXIII was...


       /\
      /  \
     /    \
__  /      \    /\_____________________
  \/        \  /  
             \/

...flatlined.

   But, as the complications set in, and we were sure that all would be lost,
the NETWORK said with its last breath, "I will return."

   And so, just hours after its demise, NETWORK XXIII rose like a phoenix from
the ashes!  It is reborn, and, although we have lost the old NETWORK, its
memory will last forever in our minds (though it didn't on the disks).  We've
done it before, and we can do it again!  It's the same old BBS (with a few new
subs), and SPAM brand luncheon meat will still be awarded to those writing
every thousandth message.

                           -0



Msg # 14 20-Feb-1988 11:25 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: How like...

   Did the underline chars show up right on your side, or did you get another
one???  I hope not.  

   What do you think of a TOP SECRET game on the system.  It may be a bit too
fast moving to play over a modem, but we can try!

                         -00-0
                  (Double-"O" Zero)



Msg # 15 21-Feb-1988 12:13 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "STTNG" - Reply to # 5


    Err... Good QUESTION! Lesse... Could I see the Culture first? I mean... It
the world sort of out of Blade Runner?  


-Derec


Msg # 16 21-Feb-1988 12:15 A.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Crash or 88..." - Reply to # 6


 I like that! Nice Ring to it... Hmmm YES! a good Advertising point!!! <Writing
it down.... New & Improved Network XXIII! I survived the Crash of 88 T
shirts!!! YES I Love it!>


-Derec


Msg # 17 21-Feb-1988 12:16 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: [POLL] - Reply to # 10


Snot.


-Derec


Msg # 18 21-Feb-1988 12:18 A.M.
Private message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: ---Top Sec...---- - Reply to # 14



  Need I say more?


-Derec


Msg # 19 21-Feb-1988 12:21 A.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ALL
Subject: "D&D"


   To all D&D players:


Drop me a line if you would like to join the D&D game... You will Recieve if
you decide to join free access to the private D&D sub! And that's not all! You
also get adventure! Yes! Just think about that!

Now all you non-gamers... You Lurkers... You can watch if you like... Just drop
me a line.

-Derec


Msg # 20 21-Feb-1988 10:55 A.M.
Public message on Humor
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: LAZARUS LONG
Subject: **-** - Reply to # 4



            RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                     -Steve Dallas
                      speaking to a
                      priest in "Billy
                      and the Boingers"



Msg # 21 21-Feb-1988 10:58 A.M.
Public message on Humor
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Nose.. - Reply to # 10
I prefer "booger."  How about you?

-DC


Msg # 22 21-Feb-1988 11:01 A.M.
Public message on Humor
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: ALL
Subject: Omigawd!!
































I ACTUALLY LEFT MESSAGE #22!!!!!!



















Msg # 23 21-Feb-1988 11:06 A.M.
Private message on Humor
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: hehee.
Don't worry, I put your BBS # up in the Gee files.

Of to a great day!

Remember, not being dead is an excuse for living!! Or somethinng to that effect
-- Count Four. er, Zero.

-DC


Msg # 24 21-Feb-1988 12:45 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Alien Culture - Reply to # 15

   Well, assume it is exactly like the Aldean culture, devoted to arts and
intellectual stuff like that. The aliens would love you as if they were your
real parents as well. They would encourage you to do whatever you want (within
reason of course).

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 25 21-Feb-1988 12:47 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Crash of '88 T-shirts - Reply to # 16

   OK by me, so long as I get royalties for the original slogan!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 27 21-Feb-1988 12:51 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: [You're back!]

Hi Laura!

   Glad to see you're back from Florida! How was it down there? Did you have
fun? I had fun in London.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 28 21-Feb-1988 12:53 P.M.
Private message on Obstupefaction City
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: [Top Secret game]

Hey 0!

   I like your idea of having a Top Secret game on this system! I know how to
play TS, but I haven't in a wicked long time. So, I would be interested in
joining up if you are going to have a TS game. Maybe I should do a "Call of
Cthulhu" game sometime...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 29 21-Feb-1988 12:55 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ALL
Subject: [Captain Morality]

   Oh darn! It looks like our resident relgious fanatic/zealot, Captain
Morality, didn't survive the Crash of '88. Goshgollygeedarnshucks!
   A party to celebrate his/her/its demise will happen at a later, unconfirmed
date. Refreshments will include Spam and lentils. See ya then!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 31 21-Feb-1988 12:58 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Bonan tagon]

   What exactly does that mean?!?!?!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 32 21-Feb-1988  1:05 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Aliens..." - Reply to # 24


   Err... Dunno Realy...  What would you do?

-Derec


Msg # 33 21-Feb-1988  1:06 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Hmmm..." - Reply to # 25


   Well I can't say anything Until I talk to the Staff here... Will Get back to
you.


-Derec


Msg # 34 21-Feb-1988  1:08 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "I am not telling!" - Reply to # 31


 <Grin>

-Derec


Msg # 35 21-Feb-1988  2:02 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: thank yo9u muchly

            glad to be back.....i've got the nastiest burn goinng....a warning
to you...never, never fall asleep in the sun for an hour with tanning oil
on.....did you have problems talking to the limeys?  i hear they can't stand
"american english"  ya know?    oh yeah...and i want to be a co-host(ess)  of
the ridance party in honor of Captain M.  ok?   thanks a lot....where can i
get a crash of '88 t shirt?

            ---laura   (and cheryl who is sitting here next to me.....)
*ps.   i 'm glad you had a good time in london, but i'll bet your tan isn't as
nice as mine...



Msg # 36 21-Feb-1988  3:37 P.M.
Private message on Non Fiction
From: COUNT ZERO
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: * - Reply to # 18



                No.


                               -0



Msg # 37 21-Feb-1988  3:40 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: mucus - Reply to # 26

   You're right, it is just you.

                              -0



Msg # 38 21-Feb-1988  3:45 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Call... - Reply to # 28

   I've never actually played "Call...", but I think you'll have your hands
full with the D&D sub.  Are you going to write a module specifically for the
Board???  I would advise it since, as Derec mentioned, if you concentrate more
on storyline than combat the playing (at least via telecom) goes much more
smoothly.  Unless you can find a prepared module with little combat and more
in the way of plot. But there's always the chance that one of the players has
that module, and you may find yourself with one guy who always knows where to
go!!!

                               -0



Msg # 39 21-Feb-1988  3:47 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Yeah! - Reply to # 29

   Yes, and after the Spam, we'll burn Oral Roberts in effigy!!!  That'll show
those forceful religious types.

                              -0



Msg # 40 21-Feb-1988  3:51 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: T-shirts - Reply to # 35

   I loved the idea so much that I might make them myself.  However I propose
the "I survived the crash of "88"" slogan on the front and "But Captain
Morality didn't" on the back.

                            -0



Msg # 41 21-Feb-1988  4:04 P.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: COUNT ZERO
To: ALL
Subject: SANDWICH OF THE DAY

   Todays Sandwich Of The Day Is:

           SMURF ON RYE
           ------------

    I don't know about you, but my mouth waters whenever I think of those
thickly-sliced blue fillets, steaming hot on fresh rye bread!!!  Slap a little
Care Bear bile on, add a side order of armadillo broth, and you've got
yourself one heluva meal.

(This  message will be updated each day with a new sandwich.  It is in no way
meant to be similar to the idea
of any other local sysops...much)



Msg # 42 21-Feb-1988  4:13 P.M.
Private message on Games & Games
From: COUNT ZERO
To: ALL
Subject: TOP SECRET

             ATTENTION!
             ----------

   For all you people who have always envied James Bond (and not just because
of his sexual conquests), you can play out all those secret fantasies!  Yes,
TSR's popular "TOP SECRET" RPG will soon be coming to this system,
Administrated by yours truly.  
   Indulge yourself in the violence, the exotic locales, the interesting
gadgets... and do it legally!  Play will begin as soon as we get some players.
 Leave me a PRIVATE message if you want to play, and I'll make sure you get
access to the TOP SECRET sub-board.

                             -0



Msg # 43 21-Feb-1988  7:30 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: MR.PAO
To: LAZARUS LONG
Subject: ARRRRGH - Reply to # 3
you were just catching up with the times then KAPLOOIE you think thats bad I
lost my USER!!!!!!!ARRRRRRRRRGH

            MR.POA


Msg # 44 21-Feb-1988  7:36 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: MR.PAO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: [poll] - Reply to # 10
I like snot myself but the one I really like is Ectoplasm now thats way better
than snot and nasel mucas

                PAO



Msg # 45 21-Feb-1988  7:41 P.M.
Public message on Non Fiction
From: MR.PAO
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: ahhh - Reply to # 13
AHHHHHH DURRR AHHHHHH HMMMMMM.....GEEE whens the funeral for the ......late
SNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFF.........deceased........network XXIII

                       PAO


Msg # 46 21-Feb-1988  7:46 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: MR.PAO
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: D&D - Reply to # 19
I play D&D so I'm In!!!!!!!!

             MR.PAO


Msg # 47 21-Feb-1988  7:51 P.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: MR.PAO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: spam - Reply to # 30
Spam is a PIG'S BUTThole SO NEXT YOU EAT THINK   TWICE MAYBE THREETIMES BUTT
FOR NOW THIS IS PAO SIGNING OFF WITH OINK


Msg # 48 21-Feb-1988  7:56 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: MR.PAO
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: <grin> - Reply to # 34
here are some other ones
<Smile>
<have fun>
<oh boy>
<Gee really>
<oh well>
<crap>
<fart>
<will you be my neighbor>
<Blak.
               If you have any more tell ME

           pao


Msg # 49 21-Feb-1988  8:00 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: MR.PAO
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: D&D - Reply to # 19
I play
      s
       o
           count me
                      I

                     IN     
            MR.Pao


Msg # 50 21-Feb-1988  8:19 P.M.
Public message on Non Fiction
From: MAXWELL
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: ummmh - Reply to # 5

        Well really it depends are these aliens green or purple?


    ---------
     Maxwell
    ---------


Msg # 51 21-Feb-1988  8:22 P.M.
Public message on Humor
From: MAXWELL
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: well - Reply to # 10

     Gee what a hard decision I personlay prefer BOOGIE.


Msg # 52 21-Feb-1988  8:26 P.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: MAXWELL
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: whoppe - Reply to # 19




              YES!!!!!!!!!!!

TROLLS,GOBLINS, AND KOLDBOLS OH MY!!


     MAX


Msg # 54 21-Feb-1988  8:36 P.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: MAXWELL
To: MR.PAO
Subject: Spam - Reply to # 47

          MR.Pao are you a anti-spam
organizer trying to rid the world of spam loving people like us.Watch out or
Mighty dog goin get yeh.

 Max


Msg # 55 21-Feb-1988  8:39 P.M.
Public message on Humor
From: MAXWELL
To: MR.PAO
Subject: yeh - Reply to # 48


           Derec if you dont mind I would like to take the honors!

<smile>
<clap>
<sneer>
<kill>
<strangle>
<kill kill and mutilate>
<kill some more>

       now wasnt that fun?

Maxwell


Msg # 56 21-Feb-1988  8:49 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: MR.PAO
Subject: <Sounds...> - Reply to # 48


 How about this... <WHAP!>  The sound of a user being struck on the head by a
bag of lentils.


-Derec


Msg # 57 21-Feb-1988  8:50 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: MAXWELL
Subject: "Aliens..." - Reply to # 50


  I they they are a shade of pinky green.


-Derec


Msg # 58 21-Feb-1988  8:52 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: MAXWELL
Subject: "Spam?" - Reply to # 54


 WHAT! Throw the heritic out! Burn him!! ARRRGGGHHH!!! You are a danger to the
state!


-Derec


Msg # 59 21-Feb-1988  8:52 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: MAXWELL
Subject: "<Smile>" - Reply to # 55

Yes... Gangs of fun.


-Derec


Msg # 61 22-Feb-1988  1:52 A.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: You're kidding!! - Reply to # 2

 A Crash? A Total Reset? I just thought that you were being nice in deleting
the old stuff so I wouldn't be forced to read the 1800 or so messages I'd
missed.. Hey guys, it's nice to be around! (Yes, I was gone, just in case you
didn't notice..)

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 62 22-Feb-1988  2:25 A.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Well, yes.. I suppose... - Reply to # 6

 But really, Derec didn't have to clear out the whole message area just for me!
Actually, I would have preferred to read thru the stuff before he went and did
such a drastic thing.. But how does everyone like the New & Improved Network
XXIII? The changes are astounding.. more disk room, less time reading and
saving responses, and even a sandwich of the day which strangely reminds me of
something I've seen before.. Deja Vu, I guess...

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 63 22-Feb-1988  2:28 A.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: AD&D Game... - Reply to # 7

 I have pretty much no idea how to play or what to do, so I figure I'm the
perfect candidate to play! By the way, are we supposed to create our own
characters? If so, I know you won't accept someone with all 18's, but how
about one with 16's and 17's? What's the cut-off point?

                       -->The F.Guy

 


Msg # 64 22-Feb-1988  2:33 A.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Oh heck! WHAT is this for?? - Reply to # 19

(the sub, I mean)

By the way, do we drop you a public or private line about the D&D game?

                       -->The F.Guy

Just wondering..



Msg # 65 22-Feb-1988  2:47 A.M.
Private message on Basic Gripes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: BBS List

I told ya KAOS was down.. and I doubt very much that it will ever be back up...
We haven't seen Leadhead in quite a while! By the way, is that list just for
local calls to you? Is 252 local? how about 238?

                       -->The F.Guy




Msg # 66 22-Feb-1988  2:54 A.M.
Private message on BRILLIANT!
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Just thought I'd tell ya...

On the log-off thingey, it's "society" not "scociety".. Just trying to keep you
on your toes! And don't forget to change Zero's thing so it says "B'WATER"
instead of "B'Water".. Geez, if I could remember that, why couldn't you???
hehe. see ya!

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 67 22-Feb-1988  2:55 A.M.
Private message on BRILLIANT!
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Sorry, but...

it's "organizations" not "orginizations" Geez...



Msg # 68 22-Feb-1988  6:36 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "F.Guy" - Reply to # 61

   You were missing? I didn't notice! Oh well... You could say I got a bit
carried away... <But not about the system... I get carried away often... I
just escape>


-Derec


Msg # 69 22-Feb-1988  6:38 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "D&D" - Reply to # 64


   Well If I notice that you are vaguely interested in the sub I give you
access...


-Derec


Msg # 70 22-Feb-1988  6:39 A.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "BBS numbers..." - Reply to # 65


  They are tolls... But I would like any numbers you can give...


-Derec


Msg # 72 22-Feb-1988  2:26 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: MR.PAO
Subject: funeral - Reply to # 45


   I think we could have a combination funeral/ christening/ riddence of
Captain Morality party.

                            -0



Msg # 73 22-Feb-1988  2:31 P.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: ? - Reply to # 56

   Why would a bag of lentils want to strike a user on the head???

                               -0



Msg # 74 22-Feb-1988  2:35 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: Sandwich - Reply to # 62

   Yeah, well it may seem familiar.  I was recently informed to the fact that a
local BBS was blatently plagiarizing our highly original creation.

                              -0



Msg # 75 22-Feb-1988  2:39 P.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ALL
Subject: "Sandwich of the day!"


 
The Sandwich of the day is:

      Lentils & Spam On White
      -----------------------


  "A lot of people faced with the idea
   of me doing a cookery book,might say
   Oh God, total and complete Bummer,
   it'll be really boring, because
   it'll all be lentil recipes.            Nothing can be further from the     
  truth, lentil recipes are very
   interesting"


          -Neil.





Msg # 76 22-Feb-1988  2:40 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: ? - Reply to # 73


 Read the message he left... <Grin>

-Derec


Msg # 77 22-Feb-1988  3:46 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: oops... - Reply to # 65

I meant we hadn't heard from Longshot in a while, not Leadhead..



Msg # 78 22-Feb-1988  3:50 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Missing F.Guy - Reply to # 68

 Yes, I was missing, and many people missed me too! Hmpf! Some people just
don't appreciate me, and then others DO! Well, it's nice to be back, and
actually it probably would have been kinda boring reading thru messages and
responding when people didn't care about them anymore..

                     -->The F.Guy



Msg # 79 22-Feb-1988  3:52 P.M.
Public message on Games & Games
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: D&D notification - Reply to # 69

 But that's not my point.. You said to tell you, and I was just wondering if
you meant tell you publicly or privately.. Just trying to clarify it a bit..
hehe

                      -->The F.Guy




Msg # 80 22-Feb-1988  4:03 P.M.
Public message on "Back Room!"
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: what's this sub for? - Reply to # 70

 Ok.. ummm...

238-0983 Arcade shop 300/1200 Baud
         24 Hours / 7 days C-net 11.1a

252-3157 Safe House 300/1200 Baud               Limited Hours (unsure of what  
       they are) C-Net 10 or 11.1a   

559-5844 The Mission 300/1200/2400 B.           24 Hours / 7 Days Oasis (?)

222-6329 King's Castle 300/1200 Baud
         24 Hours/7 Days EBBS (?)

675-8503 S.W.A.T. 300/1200 Baud
         24 hours/7 Days  Atari                         something ..

679-3275 Castle Court 300/1200 Baud
         24 Hours/7 Days C-net 10.0

674-8361 Westport BBB 300/1200 Baud
         24 Hours/7 Days Oasis (?)

672-3061 Excalibur 300/1200 Baud
          24 Hours/7 Days  C-net 10.0

679-1891 Mass Telecomm 300/1200 Baud
         24 Hours/7 Days EBBS (?)

 Ok? Those I call, so I'm pretty sure they're all accurate descriptions..

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 81 22-Feb-1988  4:06 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: hehe... Yah... - Reply to # 74

 Well, I think the same.. hehe. But as i figure it, (and as Derec originally
put it) people can call Late Night (where the soup is) and then call here for
the sandwich, and they can make a meal out of it!

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 82 22-Feb-1988  4:19 P.M.
Public message on Games & Games
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Good Job!

Thanks for putting the size of the files on the list of programs in the U/D
Areas! Much appreciated!

                        -->The F.Guy



Msg # 83 22-Feb-1988  4:43 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: BLACK KNIGHT
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: story time!
 Hey theres this real great story I have and I would like to put it up in your
stroy board!
 when is Steve come home?

                  --BK-


Msg # 84 22-Feb-1988  4:56 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: [tan] - Reply to # 35

   I prefer pallor myself.
   As for the Crash of '88 T-Shirts, ask Derec.
   I would be more than happy to accomodate you as co-hostess of the party in
celebration of C.M.'s demise. Perhaps we can bring a few of our much-vaunted
recipes?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 85 22-Feb-1988  4:59 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: Game - Reply to # 38

   Well, I wasn't planning on doing a CoC game anyways. It was just a passing
fancy.
   Oh yes, today I bought Top Secret/S.I., the new and improved version of the
game. I'll tell ya more about it as I read it.
   Derec will just have to show me Bob Gerard's stuff so I can get a decent
idea. I do have the module he based it on, though.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 86 22-Feb-1988  5:00 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: [burning] - Reply to # 39

   Can we burn Jimmy Swaggart and the Bakkers as well???

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 87 22-Feb-1988  5:02 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: MR.PAO
Subject: [ectoplasm] - Reply to # 44

   Well, unless you're a ghost, then ectoplasm can't really apply to you.
Still, that doesn't stop you from liking it, I suppose.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 88 22-Feb-1988  5:04 P.M.
Public message on Non Fiction
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: MAXWELL
Subject: [Aliens] - Reply to # 50

   Actually, their skin is plaid.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 89 22-Feb-1988  5:08 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: [2:25 a.m. ?!?!?!] - Reply to # 62

   Sheesh! And I thought I was staying up late when I stayed up til 1:20 am to
tape Dr. Who last nite!!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 90 22-Feb-1988  5:11 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: [Cut-offs] - Reply to # 63

   Well, I begin to get suspicious of characters who have more than three 18's
(unless one 18 is in the attribute of comeliness which is how good [or bad]
you look so it really doesn't matter). In general, 16's and 17's aren't quite
as bad. Still, it's nice to have an average or even low statistic every now
and then, just to give it some semblance of reality.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 91 22-Feb-1988  5:14 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: [Captain Morality] - Reply to # 72

   Actually, I think an exorcism would be more appropriate...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 92 22-Feb-1988  5:15 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: [Lentils on head] - Reply to # 73

   Because there are no bones in ice cream, silly!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 93 22-Feb-1988  5:22 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Today in TV Production]

Derec,
   
   Did 0 tell you about what we did in TV Production today?
   We had a little project involving Dave Terpeny as a Satanic televangelist.
Actually it worked out rather well, although Dave kept cracking up when he
began to chant "Devilbunnies! I snort the nose, Lucifer! Kumquat! Kumquat!" in
a Gregorian fashion. He said "kumquat" because he absolutely couldn't manage
"banana." If we had more time, we should have done a rehearsal. Maybe next
time Mr. P. won't leave us on our own...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 94 22-Feb-1988  5:30 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: MAXWELL
Subject: SPAM - Reply to # 54

              good point, max.


Msg # 95 22-Feb-1988  5:32 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: LAURA
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: aliens. - Reply to # 57

       but are they on the pinkest side of pinkey-green or the greenest
side....it makes a big difference, you know....!


Msg # 96 22-Feb-1988  5:36 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: LAURA
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: carried away? - Reply to # 68
escape?    don't you mean kidnap?  i've been kidnapped 36 times and i must say
i found it rather relaxing...



Msg # 97 22-Feb-1988  5:38 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: LAURA
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: (snicker) - Reply to # 68
i'll bet i had you all fooled....no, sorry folks, i really eWASN'T kindnapped
36 times....i lied and i'm sorry.   

             (sniff)

                      Laura


Msg # 98 22-Feb-1988  5:39 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: party - Reply to # 72





                  HEAR HEAR!!!!!!!


Msg # 99 22-Feb-1988  5:42 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: didn't care? - Reply to # 78

               i care very much about the proposed 'ParrotFleshFest `88'!!



Msg # 100 22-Feb-1988  5:51 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: d&d

              may i play?


Msg # 101  8-???-2001 56:86 A.M.
Private message on Obstupefaction City
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: New System..." - Reply to # 78


   Yeah... And At least this is all "Current" And Ratings are great! 100
messages in 2 days...!

-Derec


Msg # 102 22-Feb-1988  6:02 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "Game..." - Reply to # 79


    Public Or Private... Dosn't matter...


-Derec


Msg # 103 22-Feb-1988  6:06 P.M.
Private message on "Back Room!"
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "It is Private" - Reply to # 80

  This is a private sub for any Piracy,Cracking Etc Talk... Any sub in qotes is
private... <This sub controls the pirated software DL sub... If you have
access to this sub you have access to the DL sub>

-Derec


Msg # 104 22-Feb-1988  6:07 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "Sub..." - Reply to # 82


No Prob! <Much>

-Derec


Msg # 105 22-Feb-1988  6:08 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: BLACK KNIGHT (Read)
Subject: "Well..." - Reply to # 83


Well just upload it! glad to get a new story.


-Derec


Msg # 106 22-Feb-1988  6:10 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "2:00am" - Reply to # 89


   Well! And you don't give me credit for chatting with him at that hour!


-Derec


Msg # 107 22-Feb-1988  6:12 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: "Aliens..." - Reply to # 95


 Well I think that depends on wether they are male or female...  


-Derec


Msg # 108 22-Feb-1988  6:13 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: "Escape..." - Reply to # 96

Well It can't be called a kidnapping since I just get carried away.

-Derec


Msg # 109 22-Feb-1988  6:13 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: "Kidnapping" - Reply to # 97

   And you SHOULD be.

-Derec


Msg # 110 22-Feb-1988  6:14 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: -- - Reply to # 100

But of course!


-Derec


Msg # 111 22-Feb-1988  6:30 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Relocation - Reply to # 5

Live with a technologically supeiror race?  I think not...

Earth is far too important to leave forever, or for any geat amount of time.
Maybe for a short visit here and there.

Robert Adams


Msg # 112 22-Feb-1988  6:38 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Differing Views - Reply to # 29

[Addressed to other resident Nazi Youth Party Members]

I'm very disappointed in your blatant mishandeling of democracy.  A differing
view should hardly be met with so much hatred.

Disagreements are constructive.


But, people rarely like them as they are a challenge to endure.

Robert Adams


Msg # 113 22-Feb-1988  6:59 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: The Obduction Adventure! - Reply to # 96

Kidnapping is something else...  I always love reading the old microfiche at
the BPL about kidnappers sending families the obductee's fingers, genitles, an
ear or two, thumbs, eye balls, noses, etc. to prove their intent.

I also like hearing about the stories of long thin needles being pushed into
both of the ears at once while the obductee is straped to the bed (videotaped
the whole time, understand...)

"Experience to the extreme!"



Msg # 114 22-Feb-1988  8:02 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: "kisdnapping...." - Reply to # 109



   yes, but i DID have you going ,          didn't i?




Msg # 115 22-Feb-1988  8:02 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: d&d - Reply to # 110

          thanx.


Msg # 116 22-Feb-1988  8:06 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: kidnappin - Reply to # 113

     i said i found it relaxing.....no, not painful.  that's really awful, just
reading it gave me the willies.....please, i think you've been eating too much
spam.



            sincerely,

                      Laura



Msg # 117 22-Feb-1988 11:02 P.M.
Public message on Humor
From: Defunct user
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: poll - Reply to # 10
I think it all depends on the situation. If you are in the midst of a group of
(quasi) intelligent people, then mucous is the way to go. If, ont he other
hand, you are amongst friends, or Harley Bikers, then snot    would be more
appropriate.  In addition, if you have a cold, and you sneeze, and a clearish
liquid is forcefully ejected from your nostrils  and blows down into your
moustache or mouth, making you look like a silly messy-face, then that is
definitely SNOT !

In contrast, if you have an itch deep in the nasal cavity, and you stuff your
finger up your nose to scratch it, and upon withrawing said finger from said
nose one finds little green hard chunks under one's fingernail, then that is
undoubtedly nasal mucous.

I hope this clears up the mystery.


Msg # 118 22-Feb-1988 11:05 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: Defunct user
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: eulogy - Reply to # 13






  What a pile of sentimental crap!!


Msg # 119 22-Feb-1988 11:08 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Defunct user
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: d&&&&&&&d - Reply to # 19
i wanna play. kenneye,hunh, kenneye, hunh, kenneye, hunh kenneye?????
i wanna play.


Msg # 120 22-Feb-1988 11:23 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: Defunct user
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: F. GUY - Reply to # 68
I noticed you were missing guy. It seemed that there were fewer messages with
misspelled words and poor grammar.
 By the way, the steak and cheese sub is MINE. DON'T mess with it. OKAY???


Msg # 121 22-Feb-1988 11:32 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: Defunct user
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: kidnap - Reply to # 96
If you were to tell me your address, I would be more than happy to make it 37
times


Msg # 122 22-Feb-1988 11:33 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: Defunct user
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: kidnap? - Reply to # 97
Typical female, always making up stories just to get attention.


Msg # 123 22-Feb-1988 11:37 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Defunct user
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: ParrotFlesh Fest - Reply to # 99
I have a frien who owns a pet store, and I can get a couple dozen goodsized
parrots at quite a price reduction.
I would be more than happy to donate them to your ParrotFlesh Fest if I could
kidnap you, ... say,.... 36 times.
./.


Msg # 124 22-Feb-1988 11:41 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Defunct user
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: torture lover - Reply to # 113
Who the hell are you , you sick shit?


Msg # 125 22-Feb-1988 11:46 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Defunct user
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: spam - Reply to # 116
Laura,
     spam is brain-food. Good food.



     Fun-food. Delicious and nutritious, as well as versatile.
There cannot be any way that eating too much spam could cause one to warp out
the way that torture-lover did.    It would be my guess that he is not eating
enough of ANYTHING and his brain-growth has been stunted.


Msg # 126 22-Feb-1988 11:50 P.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: Defunct user
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: CRASH!!!
It is very much to my disappointment that all was lost. I had a rather fun
message or 2 that I was eagerly awaiting a reply to. Did you happen to see if
LEADHEAD answered my insulting   reply to his request for donations??   If you
saw it, could you fill me in??
      thanks,
            PHIL


Msg # 127 22-Feb-1988 11:58 P.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: Defunct user
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: Vacation
Dear Laura,
 I would like to take this opportunity  to say 'welcome home, sugar.'
I missed you while you were gone, as we were the main fuel for Captain M's  
tirades.
 But seriously, How did you like Florida? Where in Fla. were you?
I once lived in Gainesville, (that's where Tom Petty is from) I loved it. I
got a fine tan playing frisbee in the Gator Bowl stadium on New Year's day.
It was great, cause my folks were here in E. B'Water shovelling out from under
the blizzard of '78!

Wait, wasn't that in February??
oh well, lets just say it was COOOLLD up here.
Anyways, see ya, cutie!


Msg # 128 23-Feb-1988  2:17 A.M.
Private message on Obstupefaction City
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: what does this big word mean? - Reply to # 89

Well, actually that was a usual (as of late) time to be on.. I mean, Sunday I
stayed on LN till about 6am, and then had to get up at 9am for church! Then
last ngith to bed at 4am and up at 7am, and tonight it looks like it'll be
around 2:30 am.. I take naps in classes though, so I'm all set! Thanks for
showing concern, though! hehe

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 129 23-Feb-1988  2:22 A.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Gotta use this sub for something! - Reply to # 90

 Oh, by the way, is this a seperate thing from Derec's D&D game? And am I
supposed to notify you publicly or privately on whether I want to play or not?
Derec seems to be having problems deciding... By the way, how do I make a
character that's good? I mean, how do you know if I roll a bad one, and then
scratch it and try for something better? I could keep going.. i mean,
eventually I might get all 18's!! Oh yah, what effect does it have if I'm an
Evil character? Does everyone else in thr group spit on me and ignore me (like
in real life? hehe)

                       -->the F.Guy



Msg # 130 23-Feb-1988  2:34 A.M.
Public message on Audio-Input
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: Interesting picture... - Reply to # 99

Parrot Flesh Fest '88?? Is this one of the many (strange, yet exciting) topics
I missed? Or is this a fairly new event? What's the agenda for it? And will
they have Parrot snack bars? Parrot Pizza, Parrot Popcorn, and of course
Parrot Hamburgers? Sounds pretty good!

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 131 23-Feb-1988  2:37 A.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Wasn't this Sci-Fi Sub? - Reply to # 101

Yah, that's true.. But when I call it's usually 60 messages per day.. Yep, and
none of this oldm cobweb-covered stuff. Not for the NEW & IMPROVED (yes,
that's right.. Not Just New, not JUST Improved.. But New AND Improved!! The
best of both!) Network XXIII! And just once you get all the typos fixed,
everything will be all set.. hehe

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 132 23-Feb-1988  2:39 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Oh POOH!!! - Reply to # 102

 You gave me access to the D&D sub now!! Awwww, I didn't say I wanted to play
(though I do) and here you go giving me the sub privalege now.. Ok, so I guess
I'll notify you publicly.. But do I need to know how to play? Or can I just
wing it?

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 133 23-Feb-1988  2:43 A.M.
Public message on "Back Room!"
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Oh icky poo! - Reply to # 103

 Does this mean the public at large now can't see my awesomely neat and
formatted BBS list?? WHY did I have to pick that sub???

                        -->The F.Guy



Msg # 134 23-Feb-1988  2:48 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: 2:25am NOT 2:00am!! nyah nyah - Reply to # 106

 But Dear Derec, that was a private mail to me.. Hmmm, does this mean a certain
sysop is using powers he shouldn't be?? hehe.
 For all you people out there who (rightfully so!) don't know what's going on,
Frumpy commented on my late calling time.. and then Someone read it! When they
shouldn't have! it could have been a very personal and private love letter!
How dare you steal my privacy!! Oh well.. sysops will be sysops..

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 135 23-Feb-1988  2:52 A.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Ok, so the sub doesn't fit.. - Reply to # 113

But I just had to tell you...




You're ONE SICK PUPPY!


I mean that in the best possible sense, of course!



Msg # 136 23-Feb-1988  3:01 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Defunct user
Subject: Eek! Sorry for whatever... - Reply to # 120

 But what did I do?? Do I even know you? And here you go, picking on me!! <sob>
I'll be sure to check my typos and grammer, but I didn't think I was THAT bad!

 Sprry about the use of the sub..Iwasn't aware that we could have private
subs.. do you just talk to yourself, or do you allow a few elite people to
also use it?

                      -->Th F.Guy



Msg # 137 23-Feb-1988  7:08 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: "Kidnapping!" - Reply to # 114


   Err... Well... Yeah... Yeah You did....


-Derec


Msg # 138 23-Feb-1988  7:10 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: Defunct user
Subject: "D&D" - Reply to # 119


  Well Ok... But you must clean your room!!! <Kidding...>


-Derec


Msg # 139 23-Feb-1988  7:14 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: Defunct user
Subject: "Yes..." - Reply to # 126

Yes he did... It went somthing like this:


<I will fill you in to the Major vocabulary words>


Fuckin
Asshole



It was an amazing to see the insults... Quite creative.

-Derec


Msg # 140 23-Feb-1988  7:16 A.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "Char" - Reply to # 129


<Spit>

<Ignore>

-Derec


Msg # 141 23-Feb-1988  7:18 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: OK OK!!!! - Reply to # 131


Yeesh! am I expected to do EVERYTHING?


-Derec


Msg # 142 23-Feb-1988  7:18 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "D&D" - Reply to # 132

   Wing it.


-Derec


Msg # 143 23-Feb-1988  7:19 A.M.
Public message on "Boom Shanka!"
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: "BBS list" - Reply to # 133


   I can change that.


<Grin>

-Derec


Msg # 145 23-Feb-1988  6:11 P.M.
Public message on Audio-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: Spam? - Reply to # 116

It wasn't spam.
Soma.

Robert Adams


Msg # 146 23-Feb-1988  6:14 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: Defunct user
Subject: Who am i? - Reply to # 124

A reflection of your media.

Robert Adams


Msg # 147 23-Feb-1988  6:26 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: Defunct user
Subject: I write a Question - Reply to # 125

The humans apporoached their Messiah and asked, regarding the afflicted human
in their midst, "who is responible for his discomfort in this life?  Is the
Creator punishing his parents for their sins through him?  Or is He punishing
the man for great sins he has yet to commit?"

The Messiah said "Lo" (no) to both of the possibilities...


If such is the case, as the Messiah so stated, then is it logical.....

Is it logical, consistant, and just, for Creator to punish the Children of Adam
und Eve for their sins so long ago?  We bare the burden, the punishment for
their actions that took place so long ago...  We work upon the Earth to
produce a survivable planet.  Our lives are substantially shortened from their
natural possibility.  Our women suffer in childbirth.  We are burdened with
pests, parrasites, and other unproductive creations.  We live in a dying world
due to the sin of our Parents.

This Sin is powerful we have a sole name for it:  Original Sin

"Test everything.  Prove everything.  For the Light is The Truth."

Well?  Is God inconsistant? ("I am an unchanging god, " he says)  Is he a liar?
 What of it...

Philip, defend yor god!

With respective inquisition; Robert Adams.



Msg # 148 23-Feb-1988  6:39 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: Ani hamelch? - Reply to # 135

I am sick?  No...  Perhaps the average human is though.  May i remind you the
things i described actually did take place.

Just like someone superglueing razor blades to water slides.

(couldn't help it...)



Msg # 149 23-Feb-1988  6:47 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: "Ewwww!" - Reply to # 148


   That is SICK!!!! ICK! Where do you get them???


-Derec


Msg # 150 23-Feb-1988  7:22 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: Replying - Reply to # 129

   Oops! Forgot to use the Steak & Cheese Sub for something! Oh well..

   A private reply will be sufficient. The way to generate characters is to
roll four six-sided dice and ignoring the lowest roll. That way you get a
number from 3 to 18. If a character has no stats lower than 15, I begin to get
suspicious. Actually, I have rolled a character with four 18's once! Lucky
dice, or I just beat the bell curve!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 151 23-Feb-1988  7:24 P.M.
Public message on Audio-Input
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: Parrot Flesh Fest '88 - Reply to # 130

   Not only that, but I'm going to prepare all my special hors d'oeuvres and
side dishes for the big event! Unfortunately they were wiped out when Derec
killed the old Network XXIII, but no matter.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 152 23-Feb-1988  7:27 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: [Privacy] - Reply to # 134

   Are you saying that you want me to write you a very personal and private
love letter, F. Guy??

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: Derec can read ALL messages.



Msg # 153 23-Feb-1988  7:30 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Expected to do everything] - Reply to # 141

   Y  E  S  !  !  !  !  !  

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 154 23-Feb-1988  7:32 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [Intellectual bullpuckey] - Reply to # 147

   If we're trying to make a survivable world, then kindly explain the reason
for nuclear weapons capable of destroying this planet six times over.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 155 23-Feb-1988  7:34 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [Sicko mutant] - Reply to # 148

   I'm beginning to wonder if during your six-month stay in the Israeli kibbutz
(sp?) that you didn't teach the current regime a trick or two..

          --> Frumpy <--

kidding, of course...



Msg # 156 23-Feb-1988  9:03 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Where do i get them? - Reply to # 149

Such accounts are easily found in the records of the times.
And it doesn't take a concerted effort either.  I just have a good memory for
these things, as i do for anything that brings about strong emotions, be they
positive or negative.  In this case, negative.

And, believe me, i have expressed some of the positives here before, but with
far less response...

Now, just who is sick?

Robert Adams


Msg # 157 23-Feb-1988  9:07 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Survivable worlds... - Reply to # 154


What are the reasons men have for creating nuclear weapons?  To survive a war
(as in WWII), or to deter a war.  You may or may not believe these to be truly
effective in the long or short term, but the fact of the matter is, is that
these are the true reasons the men your ancestors elected to power hold in
creating such weapons.

The question isn't whether they will indeed fulfill their purpose, but what the
purpose is.

And, as i said, the purpose is to maintain a survivable world, regardless of
its utlimate legtimacy.

Robert Adams


Msg # 158 23-Feb-1988  9:12 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Well! - Reply to # 155

Haha...  Well, during my six month hiatus i spent only two on kibbutz Dafna
(conviently located 3 kilometers from the S.Lebanese Security Zone), the
remainder of my time i spent in the West Bank, for specifically Jerusalem.

The Palastinian rioters you see on the tele are hardly politically motivated.
Does a black kid from the ghetto of NYC who likes break dancing, rap music,
and stolls on the subtransit with his boombox at 10+ vol mug, throw stones at
police vehicles for political purposes?  

And that black kid is undoubtedly far more educated than any of those brats in
the villages of the West Bank.

I say, treat them like the brats and thugs they are.  Most Arabs in Israel do
not support such actions.  Most Arabs, as most Jews, have a better sense of
reality than that.

Robert Adams


Msg # 159 23-Feb-1988  9:27 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: SPARKY
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: well - Reply to # 8
ok i bet i do!!! yes i know when the board is getting close and if there are
less than 25 messgaes to it i usally make them to mayself how do you think i
won 2 cans of spam!!



>>spam<<
>>is<<
>>great<<
.s
.s


Msg # 160 23-Feb-1988 10:06 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: ighton,ma64....TRAD
To: BLACK KNIGHT (Read)
Subject: Car - Reply to # 60
Yeah I still have the car. It's in good shape although it hasn't been started
since July. It needs and altenator and I have the replacement, I just haven't
had the tools or the time to replace it. I'm asking $300.00 for it.
                    *Steve*


Msg # 161 24-Feb-1988 12:07 A.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Why, OF COURSE! - Reply to # 141

What do you think SysOps are for?? Too do everything, of course! (tho they
usually are too lazy..)

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 162 24-Feb-1988 12:10 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Well, don't blame ME! - Reply to # 142

 If the whole party dies cuz of a mistake by me.. You never know, I might
attack someone in the group by accident, or cast the wrong spell or
something..

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 163 24-Feb-1988 12:12 A.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Ahhhh... - Reply to # 144

 So you ADMIT that you read it!! Ah HA! hehe. No problem, really.. Just don't
let it happen again! (like you're gonna listen to me!)

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 164 24-Feb-1988 12:17 A.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Ewwwww! - Reply to # 148

I'm never going on a water slide again! Do you have any other "true" stories?
And I don't care what you say, You are SICK (er than the usual person..)

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 165 24-Feb-1988 12:20 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Strange... - Reply to # 149

How did you know I7d use that same subject on MY message?? Copy-Cat! Nyah nyah
<ignoring the fact that you left your message before me>

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 166 24-Feb-1988 12:26 A.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Does PBJ mind, though? - Reply to # 150

 He kinda seemed to pounce on me when I used this sub.. I wasn't aware it was a
special one.. I wonder how I earned such an enemy so quickly..
 Ok, so I'm replying privately, while for some reason derec said a public OR
private would suffice.. I guess this means yours is more exclusive. hehe. By
the way, do you have a seperate sub labeled 'AD&D' like the 'D&D' sub or do we
just play both at once? And by the way, noticing that on the list of subs,
it's alphabetical, but I don't have an 'N' choice.. Can you just tell me the
title of 'N' sub? Thanks!
 By the way, if I7m gonna do this right, would you mind telling me the
catagories I have to roll for? I kinda forgot them (I played D&D once a few
years ago..) And also, so all the characters start out with the same basic
stuff - meaning gold, equipment, potions etc.?

                     -->The F.Guy



Msg # 167 24-Feb-1988 12:35 A.M.
Private message on "Back Room!"
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: JILTED FRUMP
Subject: Oops, UD sub.. oh well.. - Reply to # 152

 I wish Derec would put a thing up describing what each sub is for.. I feel I
keep choosing the wrong one. (Derec, I KNOW you're there! Get to work on it!)
 Well, Frumpy, it would be nice if you DID write me a personal letter like you
described.. Actually, it would be kind of a turn-on.. You poof! hehe.
 Yes, I know derec can read all replies.. Can you? Or is Derec stingy with
access too? (I'M sorry.. I've been picking on you [derec] quite a bit lately..
am I a pest yet?) .. That7s why I want to discuss something on Late night with
you.. where Certain People can't read it! See ya there..

                     -->The F.Guy



Msg # 168 24-Feb-1988 12:44 A.M.
Private message on Obstupefaction City
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Deleting responses...

 Hi, ummm, after logging on and seeing a few messages to me, and then all the
old ones, I was just wondering.. If they're public, I should still leave them
up, right? After a few weeks, will it just keep showing me (when I first log
on) ALL my messages??? Ok, just wondering..

                     -->The F.Guy



Msg # 169 24-Feb-1988  1:38 A.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: JOHN SHANAHAN
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: well... - Reply to # 113
 I wasn't aware they allowed MCI Bridgewater inmates to have computers in their
cells....
 Interesting...


Msg # 170 24-Feb-1988  7:17 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Everything!" - Reply to # 153

  Well! I guess I will have to try harder...

-Derec


Msg # 171 24-Feb-1988  7:18 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "BullPuckey" - Reply to # 154

  I think it is 7 times over.


-Derec


Msg # 172 24-Feb-1988  7:23 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: "Times..." - Reply to # 156


  The TV times?


-Derec


Msg # 173 24-Feb-1988  7:26 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "LAZY!!" - Reply to # 161


  LAZY!!!!! And how many sysops would type in every users acount by hand?


-Derec


Msg # 174 24-Feb-1988  7:26 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "Ahhh..." - Reply to # 163


 What?


-Derec


Msg # 175 24-Feb-1988  7:27 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "Well...!" - Reply to # 165


 HA! Plagerist!!!! <Grin>


-Derec


Msg # 176 24-Feb-1988  7:30 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "Pest!" - Reply to # 167


WHAT! You think I would read that message!!! PEST! HA!


-Derec


Msg # 177 24-Feb-1988  7:31 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: "Public..." - Reply to # 168


Yes... If they are public be lazy and don't delete them... Just read new and
you wont have to bother with the old messages.

-Derec


Msg # 178 24-Feb-1988  2:46 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: Defunct user
Subject: no, really, that's ok! - Reply to # 121

          if you'll remember, i was lying, and i'm sure that nobody wants to
kidnap a liar.
                     thanks anyway...
 
                        ...Laura


Msg # 179 24-Feb-1988  2:49 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: Defunct user
Subject: hmmmm..... - Reply to # 123

  sorry, i think that it just wouldn't work out....somehow i can't picture a
kidnapper,victim relationship with you.

              sorry once again...
                      ...Laura


Msg # 180 24-Feb-1988  2:54 P.M.
Private message on Audio-Input
From: LAURA
To: Defunct user
Subject: sugar....cutie?? - Reply to # 127

       (be careful, my boyfriend may become upset with you...)

           i was in orlando and i spent a few days in the Miama area.  the
weather was ok, and i got a bburn   on the front side of me, though the
otherside got some nice rays....don't worry about capt. m.  i am convinced
that he's dead forever....that's a big relief!

               see ya,

                     ....Laura


Msg # 181 24-Feb-1988  2:59 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: parrots - Reply to # 130
parrot pizzas?!!?!?!??
parrot popcorn?!?!?!?

           you primitive fool.  just ask frumpy or zero how silly that sounds.
wanyone who posts a nice recipe ofor any type of parrot(or yak, or beagle,
ect.)  will be invited to the festival...a date has not been set, as yet.  
but i'd seriously revise the simplicity of my recipes if i were you , which,
thank fate, i am not.     (bear in mind that this is all just lighthearted
fun!)

                 .....Laura

(c'mon, lets hear it for broiled beagle buns, gang!)


Msg # 182 24-Feb-1988  3:02 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: a private love letter? - Reply to # 134
 
 

       could it be that the Fugitive        Guy is in love with Steve?



Msg # 183 24-Feb-1988  3:03 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: typos? - Reply to # 136


     that's  "grammAr"


Msg # 184 24-Feb-1988  3:06 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: D&D - Reply to # 142


  isn't it somewhat similar to checkers?



(KIDDING, KIDDING!!)


Msg # 185 24-Feb-1988  3:08 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: god? - Reply to # 147


        god who?


Msg # 186 24-Feb-1988  3:34 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [OK...] - Reply to # 157

   OK, well, I guess I can live with that...Provided that I live in a concrete
bomb shelter with a lifetime supply of Spam and silver-lined undies.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 187 24-Feb-1988  3:36 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [Palestinian brats] - Reply to # 158

   Perhaps Israel needs more Boys' Clubs...

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: That, or less Palestinean brats...



Msg # 189 24-Feb-1988  3:39 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: [Evil] - Reply to # 162

   <Hawwwk. Ptui!>

   <Shun>

   It's just possible...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 190 24-Feb-1988  3:46 P.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: [AD&D] - Reply to # 166

   Well, D&D and AD&D on this system are pretty much equal; I'm merely
referring to the subject correctly. The stats you must roll for are: Strength,
Intelligence, Wisdom, Dexterity, Constitution, Charisma, and Comeliness. All
save Comeliness are rolled using 4d6 (six-sided dice) and ignoring the lowest
roll. For Comeliness you roll 3d6 and take the result. There are certain
bonuses and penalties depending on Charisma and race that are too complicated
to get into right now. Characters start off with differing amounts of gold.
They are supposed to buy what equipment they want with their gold, but that's
kinda too complicated unless you have a copy of the Player's Handbook. For
basic equipment most people have a backpack, rations, drinks, rope, torches,
belts & belt pouches, tinderboxes, sacks, armor, clothes (cloaks, robes,
etc.), and so on. OK? I'll let ya pretty much have whatever mundane equipment
ya want.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 191 24-Feb-1988  3:49 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [EVERY user??] - Reply to # 173

   EVERY user by hand?? I dunno about that...I can think of three users who
didn't survive the crash...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 192 24-Feb-1988  3:52 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: [Broiled beagle buns??] - Reply to # 181

   And let's hear it for fricasse of toad, wombat casserole, grilled gopher
gonads, dwarf's hair cobbler, braised giraffe, cauliflower meringue pie, and
flambeau of jellyfish!!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 193 24-Feb-1988  3:53 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: [Fugie & Steve?!] - Reply to # 182

   ICK!!!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 194 24-Feb-1988  3:55 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [Razor blades on water slides]

   I would just like to thank you for reinforcing my hydrophobia, Mr. Adams.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 195 24-Feb-1988  3:58 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Sandwich of the day]

   Whatever happened to that glorious post, Derec??

   Today's Sandwich of the Day--
   ...Eye of newt on pumpernickel!
   With mayonnaise and pickles, even!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 196 24-Feb-1988  5:03 P.M.
Private message on BRILLIANT!
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: Top Secret
Hmmm...well, I was never much a
lover of violence...I only like using
RPG's to blow peoples insides out,
machine guns to put lead in their
heads, knives to skin them alive and
pour salt on them, and any other
mean gross bloody things you can think
of doing with any weapons.  Oh yes,
and running over defenseless old
ladies, men, nerds, assholes, AIDS
victims, and cats with a tank.

Translation:

"I want to play!"


Msg # 197 24-Feb-1988  5:05 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: AD&D... - Reply to # 7
You're going to start the game here?
Hmmmm...sounds like fun...i'll
join...that is if it's okay.


Msg # 198 24-Feb-1988  5:11 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Poll... - Reply to # 10
1) snot

actually I think

"snot brain spam larch house hunter
don't sleep in a subway door gang
bang horny dog plem phlem eh-hem crap
dead bird nerd black man klan kermit
and piggy pissed pickles lee jeans
battery efilnikcufecin anthrax locker
jock sweatty balls fish lips dolly
parton chainsaw death dog-on fart
woopie-cushion eat my chair please
why is my wig on fire sit on a fork
with chicken bits salad with bacos
plus snake snot and larch snot jullian
can't be bad silly bastard maiden
twian train in maine"

would be a better name for it...sorry,
but I didn't finish the other 5,697,352,014,527,64,662,526,321,663,
863,625,516 words.


Msg # 199 24-Feb-1988  5:16 P.M.
Private message on BRILLIANT!
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: D&D - Reply to # 19
Great! Great! Yes...GREAT!  I like
it! Great! Great! Yes...yes...GREAT!
What is it?  YES! GREAT! I LIKE IT!
GREAT! GREAT! What?  Yes GREAT!
Sounds GREAT!  I like it...GREAT!
I want to play D&D!

 ****  ****   ****   ****   ******
*    * *   *  *     *    *    **
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*   ** ****   ****  ******    **
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Msg # 200 24-Feb-1988  5:30 P.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: MR.PAO
Subject: thingys... - Reply to # 48
<you want what>
<vomit>
<where?>
<huh?>
<so what>
<burning flesh>
<hic-up>
<BBEELLCCHH>
<BBUURRPP>
<Burf> [ Burp and a Fart at the same time ]
<Farp> [ Fart and a Burp ]
<Vobufahihubeshit>
[Vomit, Burp, Fart, Hic-up, Huh, Belch,
Shit]

<oh poo poo>
<soiled pants>
<wet the rags>
<pampers wuz here>
<huggies>
<sex and sex>
<sex and drugs>
<sex, sex, sex, it fell off!>
<MOAN! MOAN!>
<SCREAM!>
<AARRGGHH!>
<Eat what>>
<Efilnikcufecin>
[Nice fucking life backwards]
<Eat me shorts>
<The tv blew up>
<greasy>
<sneeze>
<AHHHH-CHOOO!>
<Groan, inhale, ssnnneerrggg>
<cough, cough>
<Blagga-hack>
<Buggar out the nose>
<ANIL VAPER WARNING>
<My fart your death>
<Toilet paper w/ cocoa>
<spit>
<drool, drool>
<kidney problems>
<lepper>
<pop>
<flabber gasted>
<suprized>
<pissed off>


Msg # 201 24-Feb-1988  5:34 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Aliens... - Reply to # 57
What do they taste like?  Pinky green..
what color are their eyes?   Do they
smell? Can the blind hate them too?
Can we hate them?  Can we hate them
and kill them?  

<Crack,crunch>


Msg # 202 24-Feb-1988  5:36 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: SPAM! - Reply to # 59
Spam for PRESIDENT! Of the S.P.A. of
M!!

<Skwench> [ Sounds of finger in ear,
pulling out old ear wax ]


Msg # 203 24-Feb-1988  5:39 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: A bag of.. - Reply to # 73
How about a Bag of LINT!


Msg # 204 24-Feb-1988  5:41 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: FLIES!? - Reply to # 82
FLIES! FFLLLLLIIIIEEEEESSSSSSS!
Oh my GOD! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Run! RUN! RRRRRUUUUNNNNNn DAMMIT!
There are flies in the U/D section!

<Crunch-squish-squirt>
[Crushing a cockroach with your hand]


Msg # 205 24-Feb-1988  5:45 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Aliens... - Reply to # 91
Actually I think they are Rainbow with
striped fudge cookie eyes and spots
and..and...it wears a heavy metal
jacket ( not the rock groups either! )
and...and...it's painted pink with
stripes ( crayola only PLEASE! )
and..and spray paint with squished
ants and snot buggars on it.


Msg # 206 24-Feb-1988  5:48 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Horror! - Reply to # 92
I always thought bones were in ice
cream...I found a kids finger in it
once.  What "ACTUALLY" is vinalla
ice cream?  IS it ICE cream...or..is
it just..CREAM!    Piuure it...

           /===============/
           !               !
           !  ***   ***    !
           !   *     *     !
           !   *     *     !
            !   *     *     !
           !  ***    *     !
           !               !
           /===============/


Msg # 207 24-Feb-1988  5:50 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: eh? - Reply to # 98
                  WHAT WHAT???????


Msg # 208 24-Feb-1988  7:04 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY (Read)
Subject: More numbing stories? - Reply to # 164


Well, i think i've pretty much run out of grusome accounts, except for one that
always struck me as rather chilling.

During the French revolution (and, oh, didn't they do it just perfect as the
French think they do everything?  Just not first...)  it was an honored
position, and a lucky one, to be first in line for execution on the
guillotine(sp?).  

The blade, being the most important part of the device, was always taken home
by a person in position, usually to be cleaned and sharpened...

As after the first, second, third, and fourth chop (through all the flesh,
cartlidge, and bone) the blade tended to get pretty dull, requiring them to
pull the blade up (slowly as it was heavey) and let it down once more on the
half-neck-chopped victim below.

Some accounts have them bringing the blade down as much as 7 times.

And they said it was a good death...



Msg # 210 24-Feb-1988  7:12 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: A lazy SysOp? - Reply to # 173

Derec is by far a lazy SysOp...  Why he takes the time and effort to read EVERY
message on the system.

For grammaticle errors of course.

Msg # 211 24-Feb-1988  7:16 P.M.
Public message on RObstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: Who is God? - Reply to # 185


Name me one thing in existence that is without a physical need for God (or that
which claims the powers, and actions of that which we call God).

Robert Adams


Msg # 212 24-Feb-1988  7:18 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Fear not! - Reply to # 186

Don't worry, you just might survive.

There will truly be those lucky enough to survive the Day of Purification.
And to build a wonderful world of Neo-Fuedalism!

"Nathan Holst, may you burn in hell!"



Msg # 213 24-Feb-1988  7:19 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Perhaps... - Reply to # 187

Perhaps the Palastinian children and the generation imediately before them
should've heeded the lesson of the 6 Day War.

Robert Adams


Msg # 215 24-Feb-1988 11:03 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: ighton,ma64....TRAD
To: ALL
Subject: Back
Hey guys,

     I'm back... did ya miss me?

                     *Steve*


Msg # 216 24-Feb-1988 11:51 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Yah, but... - Reply to # 173

 That's not being un-lazy, that's being plain stupid! hehe. ok ok, so you're
not lazy.. I was just teasing.

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 217 24-Feb-1988 11:54 P.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Ahhhhh.. - Reply to # 174

 C'mon, Derec! I have to abort and go to the message you were responding to
every time, so I can understand what you were talking about.. You can do the
same! I was saying that you admitted to reading the personal (steamy) love
letter from Frumpy to me.

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 218 24-Feb-1988 11:57 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: I KNEW it!! - Reply to # 176

 Again he reads personal love mail to me! You ... you.. theif! No, but
seriously, can't you do that for me (explain what each sub is for)?

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 219 25-Feb-1988 12:06 A.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: Ok.. Zero? Frumpy? - Reply to # 181

 Post some recipes for parrots (or yaks or beagles) so I'll have an idea of
what Laura wants.. recipe-wise, I mean..
 Ummm, Laura, maybe I AM primitive, but doesn't it sound neat saying 'parrot
pizza or parrot popcorn or pathetically purple parrot pepperoni'?? I thought
it did! And I'll look thru my mom's recipe books to find something suitable
for parrots.. cuz I DO want to be invited!

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 220 25-Feb-1988 12:09 A.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: Steve??? - Reply to # 182

 Who is Steve?? I was talking about Frumpy could have been sending me a private
love letter, but unfortunately it was some boring thing that I don't even
remember. hehe.

                       -->The F.Guy



Msg # 221 25-Feb-1988 12:15 A.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: Yah, TYPOS!! - Reply to # 183

 And it's "sOrry" rather than "sPrry" and I didn't leave a space between "I"
and "wasn't".. You might even find a few "7"'s instead of apostrophes!
 Argh! First there was Laz, then comes along Frumpy, and now Laura starts
jumping in on the game... (and of course there's ol' Phil Jr. over there)

                        -->The F.Guy



Msg # 222 25-Feb-1988 12:19 A.M.
Public message on Games & Games
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Hmmm.. maybe not evil then! - Reply to # 189

 Ok, how about if I'm neutral? Or evil-neutral? Or 25% evil, 75% neutral? Or
just a wee bit evil? I think it adds some depth to my character..

                         -->The F.Guy



Msg # 223 25-Feb-1988 12:26 A.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: AD&D is the same game as D&D? - Reply to # 190

 Or are you just saying they're basically the same game? What I mean to say is,
is Derec running a D&D game while you run an AD&D game? Or is it just one
game?
 Ok, so I'll roll my guy soon.. And it's ok if I don't like my guy to roll it
over again, right? By the way, could you explain the difference between Wisdom
and Intelligence, and how that affects play of the game? And also..
Constitution is how many hit points, or how quickly you heal, right?
Furthermore, how does Charisma or Comeliness affect the game, other than if I
try to pick up som babes? Ok, thanks for your help!

                        -->The F.Guy



Msg # 224 25-Feb-1988 12:28 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: It's FICTION! A malicious rumor!! - Reply to # 193

 WHO is this Steve character, and how did this rumor start???

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 226 25-Feb-1988 12:40 A.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Gee, thanks for telling me! - Reply to # 208

 But they MUST have been dead after the first chop! (right?) And I was gonna
mention that I was French, and I appreciated the compliment about us being
perfect, but I think I won't say anything..

                         -->The F.Guy



Msg # 227 25-Feb-1988 12:44 A.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: 6 Day War.. - Reply to # 213

 Well, the least you can do is tell us about it!

                      -->The F.Guy



Msg # 229 25-Feb-1988  1:01 A.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: THE FUGITIVE GUY
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: humm...

 Hi, I just noticed that you hadn't read response # 167 which was a private
mail to you.. I don't think you read it anyways, cuz you didn't respond to it,
and there was no (read) after it.. So go read it!
 Also, you didn't answer me before.. What sub is 'N'? Or don't you have that
either? Ok, see ya!

                         -->The F.Guy



Msg # 230 25-Feb-1988 10:00 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: "D&D" - Reply to # 184


   Yes! It is alot like Checkers...



<KIDDING!>


-Derec


Msg # 231 25-Feb-1988 10:02 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Users..." - Reply to # 191


  Well I didn't think they would call back!


-Derec


Msg # 234 25-Feb-1988 10:08 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: "Car..." - Reply to # 209


   It was a Nova.


-Derec




Msg # 235 25-Feb-1988 10:12 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: "Whatever..." - Reply to # 218


   They are whatever you make them...


<Except the Back room... That is for  Well... You know!>


-Derec


Msg # 236 25-Feb-1988 10:17 A.M.
Private message on "Back Room!"
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: "Sub N" - Reply to # 229

   It is a Private sub I only gave to 0.



<Never found a use for it...>


-Derec


Msg # 237 25-Feb-1988  3:23 P.M.
Private message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ALL
Subject: "Infocom!"


   The U/D Section has now been Updated!  Now there is an INFOCOM section! <No!
No Infocom Games!>  There are now Solutions/Hints Etc...


-Derec


Msg # 238 25-Feb-1988  3:26 P.M.
Private message on Visual-Input
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ALL
Subject: "Sandwich of the day!"



   Todays Sandwich of the day is:


        Meatloaf on Toast
        -----------------

 Goes Great With Meatloaf Soup!!!!!


   "Ewww! Ulp! How about Gravy?"
              -Jilted Frump?




Msg # 239 25-Feb-1988  3:45 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: ighton,ma64....TRAD
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: Love - Reply to # 228
I sure as hell hope that it's another Steve.

                      *Steve*


Msg # 241 25-Feb-1988  5:56 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: name one without a phsysical need for "god" - Reply to # 211


                me.


                      -Laura
/s


Msg # 243 25-Feb-1988  6:07 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: didn't mean to bbother you... - Reply to # 221


   sorry, didn't mean to pick on you, but don't you think you were rather hard
on Frumpy....oh yeah, and i didn't forget the "sprry"  i just chose to ignore
it.....

  the parrot flesh fest '88 is to be the biggest most outlandish feast of the
times....and i can't think of a place to have it.....

      send in those recipes!  and you'll get yourself a posted invitation.


                ....Laura


Msg # 244 25-Feb-1988  6:12 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: having r.adams tell us about aANYTHING!!! - Reply to # 227

   u really this stupid, or do you practce?!?!


       do you know how dangrerous it is to ask rob anytype of question that
gives him a perfect opportunity to descrivbe more horriffic scenes to us???

            get some sleep


                       Laura


Msg # 245 25-Feb-1988  6:14 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: ice cream - Reply to # 233


....though i once found an armadillo in mine.....or maybe that was just one of
those ice cream/reotptile fantasies...





Msg # 247 25-Feb-1988  6:45 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [guillotinings] - Reply to # 208

   Eewwwww!

   Ick!

   <Shudder>

   Enough, already!!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 248 25-Feb-1988  6:47 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [no need for God] - Reply to # 211

   The answer to both questions is:




     S  P  A  M  !  !  !  !




          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 249 25-Feb-1988  6:49 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [??] - Reply to # 213

   I'll no doubt regret this, but, could you please explain further?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 251 25-Feb-1988  6:53 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: Parrots - Reply to # 219

   Well, our main recipe for parrot is, well, parrot flesh with hemlock and
cyanide sauce garnished with a few decorative sprigs of Jimson weed. OK?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 252 25-Feb-1988  6:56 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: [evil-neutral] - Reply to # 222

   Neutral characters I'll accept. Even chaotic neutrals. Neutrals with evil
tendencies I won't mind (much) but I'd rather not have any evil characters
because they tend to clash with the good-aligned members.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 253 25-Feb-1988  7:02 P.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: [AD&D game] - Reply to # 223

   AD&D and D&D are two different games, but for our purposes, they are the
same; Derec and I mean the same thing. There is only one fantasy role-playing
game going on and you can call it either one but technically it is AD&D.
   The difference between Wisdom and Intelligence is that Intelligence is,
well, intellect and how smart you are. Wisdom is common sense and will power.
Characters with higher Intelligences know more languages and have greater
chances of understanding spells if they're a magic-using class. Characters
with high Wisdom aren't as easily affected by charms and mental attacks.
Clerical classes with high Wisdom also get bonus spells.
   And yes, Charisma and Comeliness are basically only good for picking up
babes (and/or dudes). A high Charisma means a person has a high leadership
potential, while not necessarily looking good (example: Hitler). Charisma can
also affect encounters for better or worse.
   Yes, you can reroll your character if you don7t like the original. However,
it will still have to pass my standards.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 254 25-Feb-1988  7:06 P.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: [Steve] - Reply to # 224

   This Steve character is none other than Steve H.
   As to how the rumor got started, I haven't the foggiest idea!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 255 25-Feb-1988  7:08 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: [Personal steamy love letter] - Reply to # 226

   Well, I'd have to see you in person before judging you as perfect...

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: Plus have a little, er, "hands on experience"...

P.P.S.: Kidding...



Msg # 256 25-Feb-1988  7:09 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: ["N"] - Reply to # 229

   I think it's the D&D sub, but I'm not sure. I'll let you know.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 257 25-Feb-1988  7:12 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [flies] - Reply to # 232

   Yeah, but did you have to eat them ALL, Derec?? I wanted some, too, you pig!
   Speaking of pigs, whatever happened to Officer Kung-Fu?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 258 25-Feb-1988  7:16 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Hedgehogs]

   There might not be any hedgehogs in ice cream, but can you deny that there
aren't hedgehogs in Spam???

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 260 25-Feb-1988  7:46 P.M.
Private message on Obstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: Ahem... - Reply to # 244

"to ask rob"???  "Rob"???

Its "Robert, " Lau.

When i was designed they gave me that name for a reason.  'Cause its plain, and
simple.  Just like Adams.  No reason to make a simple name simpler, eh?

Thanks.

Robert Adams


Msg # 261 25-Feb-1988  7:54 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: UUUUUUWWWW! - Reply to # 245


Oh, that reminds me!  I once read a book on modern legends, or tales.

You've all probably heard this quaint, purely horrible, and untrue tales at
some point in your organic life in the Great Land of Plastic and Big Money.
(Yes, just think, those plastic styro-foam BigMac cartons will stay just as
pretty as they were when you first bought it, for thousands of years!  The
marvels of plastic, eh?!)

Back to Modern Myths...  There was this lady, she finished her Pepsi (i like
Coke over Pepsi, and Dr. Pepper the best out of 'em all...) and noticed the
can was still heavey.  She shakes it up and down.  <Thump -- Thump> it goes in
side.  "What IS inside of this!?!?!"  A dead, partially carbonated rat.
You know those factories, lord only knows what scurries about the assembly line
at 12am!  Now, imagine digesting a drink with a whole rate corpse in it.

Or, and this is older, the story about the fur jacket.  Young girl rips it
while running down a street on a side fence, when she notices dried snake
sheddings, etc. mixed in with the stuffing (yes, snakes love cotten, and other
synthetics of the like ilk, didn't you know?)



Msg # 262 25-Feb-1988  8:13 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: After the first <CHOP>...

Ok, picture this:

Your 8th in line (were late getting up, a pile of straw on a floor of human
fecse mixed with the smell of vitamin deffecient urine combines to make quite
a relaxing night sleep believe it or not)...  Anyway, you're the 8th in line
to have your head disconnected from your head.  Why?  Well, humanity just
perceived you as a purely unproductive human in the current scheme of things.
A pretty fair reason.

Its your turn!  You're so excited your sweating like a convict about to step
into the electric chair!  You climb the stair, they push you down to the floor
("geez, didn't have to be so pushy about it")  You eagrly place your neck in
the stock, you even push down the top of it closing it shut (its a good
Christian ethic to be helpful, mom's words right till the end!)

Next thing you`know they're putting your haÎd into locked stocks, and strapping
a heavey leather belt about your torso.  You find this quite peculair, seeing
you're looking forward to the new experience.  But, you can excuse their
enthusiaism since this is a new position of power for them due to the
"Glorious Revolution."

The blade comes down...  OUCH!  Well, at least you can't feel anything but your
face.  The world seems funny to, instead of only being able to look at the
floor boards, the crowd is now visible through the blood running into your
eyes and down your nostrils....

Now, what's happening to you is this:  The blade, on its first drop, only cut
halfway.  revealing several veins, the spinal cord, perhaps the lower half of
the brain if he twisted wrong before the impact, and undoubtedly a few grey
coloured muscle tissue.

If your lucky you won't spasmastically start coughing due to all the blood
running down your nose before the blade finished the job on the 2nd drop.



Msg # 263 25-Feb-1988  8:19 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Yes, it was... - Reply to # 234


Yes, it was a Nova, that's right!

Boy, that was a fun night.  Rolling down that hill toward the buzy
intersection, deep in debate over (oh, we neither of us never did remember
what we were discussing, did we!)...  "Gee, the lights red.  Think i
should.....<<<SMASH>>>"

"Yes, XXX, yes, i think that would've been a good idea.  Funny, my door won't
open.  Think that might be because the front end of your car is mushed into
the side of that white cadilac three feet from our faces?"

Too bad Leo's tape did't make the voyage from the back seat to the dashboard,
and oh, how i did love Peter Gabriel's "Shock The Monkey"!

Robert Adams


Msg # 264 25-Feb-1988  8:36 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: The Glorious 6 Day War - Reply to # 227

Aproximately 2 decades ago the arab confederacy, no matter how loose,
disorganized, and technologically and culturally behind, declared that the
destruction of the "Zionist Regime" lay in the near future.

Meanwhile, Israel pleaded with the USNA and UN to mediate the situation, and
work out a system of mutual survival and benefit for Israel and the arab
tribes.  But, to no response.

It was Shabbat, Friday evening more precisely.  The arab forces, Jordan, Syria,
and Egpyt mostly, crossed Israeli borders, over ran kibbutzim and other
unarmed settelments with tanks and troops.

Within hours the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) had halted the insurection of the
arab forces.  By day break they were driving the arab forces back over the
boarders and following them into the soverign states of their homelands to
acquire startigic positions for future defense.

In 6 Days Israel had, literally, more than doubeled the land under their
possesion.  The Golan Heights (where i was located while on kibbutz Dafna),
Samaria & Judea (known in the US as the West Bank), the Gaza Strip, and the
Sinai District were the gained territories.

Golan Heights:  annexed in 1976.
Judea & Samaria:  slowly being transformed into an active, peace loving
district
Gaza Strip:  A strip of sand of mere stratigic purpose, and maybe one day good
factory land
Sinai District:  offered as a kind gift to the Egyptians in an effort to allow
them to almost forget their bitter and reality-bringing defeat.

Robert Adams


Msg # 267 25-Feb-1988 11:07 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: "Dreams..." - Reply to # 245


  You have dreams about armidillos/Ice Cream ALSO? WOW! I wonder if that says
somthing?


-Derec


Msg # 268 25-Feb-1988 11:10 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Private" - Reply to # 253


  Hi! Could you please make your talk about D&D Public on the AD&D sub...  I am
sure the other players would be interested...


-Derec


Msg # 269 25-Feb-1988 11:11 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Kung Fu." - Reply to # 257


 He Died.


-Derec


Msg # 270 25-Feb-1988 11:11 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Hedgehogs/Spam" - Reply to # 258


Err... Ummm... Couldn't tell you.

-Derec

<Or rather I wont TELL>



Msg # 271 25-Feb-1988 11:16 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: "Security" - Reply to # 263


   Well It was my copy... I had just purchased it that day... It did play but
it would make an annoying ticking noise when I played it... So I got the CD...
It is FAR more impressive on CD <It was Digitaly Recorded>


-Derec


Msg # 272 26-Feb-1988  8:52 A.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: LAURA
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: icecream/armadillo fantasies. - Reply to # 267


       probably not.




Msg # 273 26-Feb-1988 10:53 A.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: "Hi!"


   Do you go to school at all????



-Derec


Msg # 274 26-Feb-1988  2:41 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [REPLY] - Reply to # 262

<puke>

Thank you ever so much for sharing that with mme.. Please refrain from such
things in the future.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 276 26-Feb-1988  5:30 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: SpSpam - Reply to # 30
Well, when I opened the spam that Derec and 0 gave me, well, it killed my
hamster and all the fish in my room because of the terrible smell.  I,
however, was prepared... I had a gas mask.

-DC


Msg # 277 26-Feb-1988  5:31 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: MAXWELL
Subject: Message 22 - Reply to # 53
Uh, I think so!  The excitement must have gone to my head... these things
happen, ya know..

-DC


Msg # 278 26-Feb-1988  7:13 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [Sinai] - Reply to # 264

   That's that vaguely-triangular piece of land that joins Africa and Asia,
right? I remember when they gave it back to Egypt; I think I was in the 5th
grade or so.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 279 26-Feb-1988  7:15 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: ¿JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Fu] - Reply to # 269

   The character, not the user, right? Guess he just went too far with the
nightstick one night, eh?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 281 26-Feb-1988  7:26 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ALL
Subject: [Players]

   Any players having difficulty out there? If so, just leave me a message!
Public will be fine so that everyone can benefit whether they want to or not!

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: the game will start soon. (Hopefully). I just have to decide on a
suitable adventure. Oh yes, could all the players please drop me a note so I
know who you are?



Msg # 282 26-Feb-1988  7:27 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [main menu]=

   I see that we're back to the old menu again. How come? I was growing rather
fond of the steak menu there...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 283 26-Feb-1988 10:37 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: ighton,ma64....TRAD
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: Shoot Down - Reply to # 242
Well shoot away!

         *Steve*


Msg # 284 26-Feb-1988 10:39 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: ighton,ma64....TRAD
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Miss Me - Reply to # 250
If you missed me so much than tell me, where did I go and why didn't you leave
any messages asking where I was?




SURE YOU MISSED ME!

             *Steve*


Msg # 285 27-Feb-1988  8:57 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: school - Reply to # 273

      not if i can help it!








Msg # 287 27-Feb-1988 11:19 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Menu" - Reply to # 282


I liked it also... However I didn't like Crashes.


-Derec


Msg # 288 27-Feb-1988  3:18 P.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ALL
Subject: "Sandwich of the day!"



The Sandwich of the day is:


  "Tounge of Yak On Hard Tack"

  "Two Thumbs up! A wonderful time
   at the movies..."
       -Siskel & Ebert





Msg # 289 27-Feb-1988  3:43 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: script


how 'bout that script?



Msg # 294 14-???-1984  0:10 A.M.
Private message on Obstupefaction City
From: MR. WAX
To: Defunct user
Subject:

Msg # 296 27-Feb-1988 12:38 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Ice Cream - Reply to # 233
Well..if there are no Hedgehogs in
ice cream...then....then..what really
is in ice cream?  Could it be
LARKS vomit???  Maybe...POO POO!
POO POO is in chocolate ice cream!
And...and COCKROACHES ARE IN...IN
CHOCOLATE CHIP ICE CREAM!   Actually..
in vanilla...I found Frosty the
Snowman believe it or not.


Msg # 297 27-Feb-1988 12:41 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Aliens - Reply to # 108
Actually...they are BOTH male and
female!  Now they can *uck themselves!


Msg # 298 27-Feb-1988 12:46 A.M.
Public message on Humor
From: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Kidnapping - Reply to # 113
Either when you kidnap...you could:

1) Make a kid goto sleep
2) Take the kid, hold him for ransom,
   and sexually abuse him...it..her.
3) Take knapkin for hostages and    threaten to burn him
4) Take the word "KID" from our
   vocabulary
5) Beat up Webster and burn his
   dic(k)tionarys


Msg # 299 28-Feb-1988  8:51 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
Subject: Geeeeeeeez! - Reply to # 298

And you thought i was bad Laura?!?!?

This guy is SICK.  I mean it, you are def. a byproduct of The Factory.
Sexually abusing kids, well, that never crossed my mind.

I guess i'm just kinda weird, eh?

Robert Adams


Msg # 300 28-Feb-1988  9:43 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ALL
Subject: [Characters' names]

   For simplicity's sake I have decided that characters should have the same
name (handle) as the user who is playing that character. For example, The
Fugitive Guy's character will be called The Fugitive Guy (or perhaps something
shorter), and so on. Got that?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 301 28-Feb-1988 10:02 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ALL
Subject: [What you can be]

   Here's a list of races and classes you can be:

Races:
1) Human
2) Elf (many types)
3) Half-Elf
4) Dwarf (Hill, Mountain, or Gray)
5) Halfling
6) Gnome (Surface or Deep)
7) Half-Orc

Classes:
1) Assassin (evil!)
2) Barbarian
3) Bard
4) Cavalier
5) Cleric
6) Druid
7) Fighter
8) Healer *
9) Houri *
10) Illusionist
11) Incantatrix *
12) Magic-User
13) Monk
14) Paladin
15) Ranger
16) Thief
17) Thief-Acrobat
18) Witch *

   Those with a "*" next to them are rather unique to my rules. Healers
specialize in healing. Houris specialize in seduction, etc. Incantatrixes are
powerful in magic but weak in combat. Witches cast many spells and have
certain powers.
If you need more info, leave me a message.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 302 29-Feb-1988  3:55 P.M.
Private message on Humor
From: MR. WAX
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: HELLO!
GWEN WANTED TO KNOW IF SHE'S OK. WE COULDN'T LOG ON UNDER HER.


Msg # 303 29-Feb-1988  4:01 P.M.
Private message on Basic Gripes
From: MR. WAX
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: HI!
ACTUALLY, THIS ISN'T WAX IT'S GWENEVERE OF LOXLY WHO CAN'T SEEM TO LOG ON UNDER
HER NAME SO... I DUNNO. EITHER

1.) YOU HAVEN'T CALLED LATENIGHT

2.) YOU HAVEN'T READ YOUR MAIL

3.) YOU'RE IGNORING ME....


GEE, I DUNNO. JUST THOUGHT I'D SAY "HI!" OK, I'LL LEAVE YOU ALONE. K?


                         LOVE,

                      GWEN...


Msg # 304 29-Feb-1988 10:13 P.M.
Private message on "AD&D Sub"
From: STEVE H.
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Possision - Reply to # 301
I don't know if Derec talked to you or not but I want to play D&D and I want to
be a Human Magic-User. Thanx.

                  *Steve*


Msg # 305  1-Mar-1988  7:13 A.M.
Private message on Obstupefaction City
From: STEVE H.
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: *
SSSSSMMMMMAAAARRRTTTT
    FFFFOOOOOOOODDDD














 ***   *   *   ***   ***   *****
*   *  ** **  *   *  *  *    *
*      * * *  *   *  *  *    *
 ***   *   *  *****  ***     *
    *  *   *  *   *  *  *    *
    *  *   *  *   *  *  *    *
****   *   *  *   *  *  *    *


*****   ***   ***   ****
*      *   * *   *  *   *
****   *   * *   *  *   *
*      *   * *   *  *   *
*      *   * *   *  *   *
*       ***   ***   ****


Msg # 307  1-Mar-1988  3:17 P.M.
Private message on Games & Games
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Zork III solution]

   Believe it or not, there IS a simpler solution to the Royal Puzzle Room.
Since you never lose points when you die, kill yourself as soon as you get the
book, and it along with all your possessions will be scattered around for you
to pick up. It makes no difference what way you do it, but it's simpler that
way. You of course already know this, but others might benefit from it.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 308  1-Mar-1988  3:25 P.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Late Night Cast Party]

   I talked with Aqualung last night, and he says Lady JJ's having second
thoughts about having the LNCP at her house cuz the Fugitive Guy invited 29
people (she said 20 maximum) and gave public directions to her house. She said
she was going to sleep on it, so he'd know today, I think.
   In case there is one, might I ask you a teensy-weensy favor? Seeing as how
Raynham is convenientaly right between Bridgewater and Taunton, might you see
fit to pick me up along the way? Otherwise transportation is quite unwilling
to do much for me in getting me over there.
   Aqualung also has plans for The New Late Night, which might be up next week
if he's lucky. He's currently working on it, but with work and his girlfriend
and all... Apparently it's going to combine the best features of C-Net 11 and
C-Net 12 (?)  with little or no waiting, which tends to discourage some people
from the larger subs. Have you noticed the general slump of activity lately? I
sure have! Only four new messages in two days? Sheesh! Talk about a nose-dive
in ratings!! However, most of the people we're familiar with either haven't
the time or are grounded. Should pick up soon, I hope! Well, see you around!

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: just wait 'til LNCP!!!!! hehehe! (<evil chuckle>).



Msg # 309  1-Mar-1988  5:27 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: characters'names - Reply to # 300

  why, frumpy, how creative, yet resourseful of you!




Msg # 310  1-Mar-1988  9:57 P.M.
Private message on "AD&D Sub"
From: STEVE H.
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: CHARACTER - Reply to # 306
I'll be neutral neutral.

           *Steve*


Msg # 312  2-Mar-1988  9:23 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "---" - Reply to # 307


  Yes... But that could be concidered cheating <Grin> There is a similar
"Cheat" in Scorcer.


-Derec


Msg # 314  2-Jan-1988  2:42 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: [Names] - Reply to # 309

   <blush>

   So, are you interested in joining, Laura, or what? I hope you are...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 316  2-Jan-1988  3:03 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [New story]

Hey Derec,

   Be sure to visit the file library and read my latest story, "A Treatise on
the Yak!!!!!"

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 317  2-Jan-1988  3:09 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Spam - Reply to # 313
Ok, thanks a bunch.  UCC IX is gonna be on March 27th, a sunday.. the list
IS complete!

-DC


Msg # 318  2-Jan-1988  3:13 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: P.O. #
Didja ever get any letters in your post offix box yet?



Msg # 320  2-Mar-1988  6:37 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: MR. WAX
Subject: "0---" - Reply to # 303


 It seems 0 is banned from a computer <Bad grades> I can get a message to him
if you would like...


-Derec <Sorry for intrupting Private mail....>



Msg # 321  2-Mar-1988  6:48 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: d&d - Reply to # 314
of course...i'm a little rusty, on the whole thing, i haven`t played for a
while.   hmmm.....help me with a character, would you?
             .........Laura


Msg # 322  2-Mar-1988  6:54 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ALL
Subject: "Fiction!"


  Well There is a new "Story" in the Fiction Download Section... It is about
Yak's and it is by Jilted frump... Need I say more?

-Derec


Msg # 323  2-Mar-1988  6:55 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ALL
Subject: "Infocom!!!!"


   Lets hear from all you Info-Fanatics out there? I would like to talk with
some other infocom fans!

-Derec


Msg # 324  2-Mar-1988  6:57 P.M.
Public message on Humor
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ALL
Subject: "British Humor!"


   Well I have discovered a new British Comidy Program that is GREAT! It stars
Rowland Ackanson "Of Not the 9'oclock News Fame" <A Great show that HBO ripped
off>  The show is called Black Adder II and It is on sunday's on Arts &
entertainment <all you Non-Cable People... sorry>

-Derec


Msg # 325  2-Mar-1988  6:58 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ALL
Subject: "Amiga!"

   Does anybody have or knows somebody with an amiga 500? And if so... I want
to know what they think of it.


-Derec


Msg # 326  2-Mar-1988  9:31 P.M.
Public message on Humor
From: BLACK KNIGHT
To: ALL
Subject: T.V. Cable Guide

      ------WEDNESDAY------
             EVENING

7:00 PM

Let's Talk-A frank discussion by 3 experts on Sinatra Langella and Futer (1
hr.)..............Consumer Network

8:00 PM

Gourment Gorging -recipes for Turnim Pie and Chicken 'N' Shoe Polish (1
hr.)..................Cooking Channel

9:00

Don A Pizzacotta -This well-known Italian opera is performed by Mrs.
Horsenagel's 3rd grad music class (2hr.).................Culure Network

10:00 PM

A Look At Commercail TV - Two Hours of non-stop commercails for those who
really miss it (2hr)....Da Movie Channel

           


        and thats all for now
        came tommrow and we'll
        give you thursday TV
        cable guide!

           till then!

        this is

               -BK-


Msg # 329  2-Mar-1988 10:54 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: STEVE H.
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Character - Reply to # 315
tanx.

    *Steve*


Msg # 330  3-Mar-1988  3:00 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: [Character] - Reply to # 321

   I'd be more than willing to help you with a character. What exactly do you
need help on? Do you need your memory refreshed on how to play?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 332  3-Mar-1988  3:08 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ALL
Subject: [The Game]

   I hope to start up this adventure sometime next week if people can get their
characters in as soon as possible. By the way, all characters will be 5th
level, OK?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 333  3-Mar-1988  3:10 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: [Character]

   For starters, what kind of character do you want to play? If you're not
sure, go back to the list I left a couple days ago. Steve H. is gonna be a
neutral human magic-user. I would prefer like only one or two of the same
class (and no evil characters) so bear that in mind. If you just tell me what
class and alignment you want to be, I'll roll the character up for you, OK?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 334  3-Mar-1988  4:35 P.M.
Public message on Humor
From: BLACK KNIGHT
To: ALL
Subject: T.V. Cable Guide
       ------THURSDAY------
              Evening

7:00pm

Brain-A-Tron (Thriller, 1981) A gaint is captured, tranquilzed and then forced
to run the Santa Fe Railroad with the electrical currents running throuhg his
brain.  Mclain Stevenson and Connie Chung star (2hrs 11min)..............HPO
Movie Highlight

8:00pm

Rock! Rock! Rock! -Six of LA's best-known doormen are given a chance to sing
their favorite songe in Latian (1hr).............................N-TV

9:00pm

HOW TO PACK A GASKET (30min).Consumer
                             Network

10:00pm

Superman VII (Adventure,1988) Released to cable BEFORE the theaters this time,
Les Tar take over the starring role from Christopher Reeve. This time out
Superman must single-handedly rescue an accouting firm in the clutches of a
maniacal home computer! (2hr 16min)............Da Movie Channel

            and that all for
            now! call back
            tommrow and we'll
            have Friday!
            this is -BK-
            singing OFF!!!


Msg # 335  3-Mar-1988  5:09 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: SOLOMON KANE
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: YES! - Reply to # 5

      Augustus

 Of Course I would! But only if the aliens were big and green and had big
sticky tentacles sticking out of their upper foreheads of course.

     !!!!



Msg # 336  3-Mar-1988  5:14 P.M.
Public message on "Back Room!"
From: SOLOMON KANE
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: I will Play - Reply to # 19

 I will play if I can be a Human Ranger, with a big sword that goes"Chop! Chop!
Choppy!!!"

  I killed my alter-ego!


Msg # 338  3-Mar-1988  5:18 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: SOLOMON KANE
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: mmmm - Reply to # 24

 What is wrong with the Aliens who live on pure violence and galctic thrills..
That kind that would keep you as long as you survived??

 I am against the idea that aliens are peace loving , nice guys.. Nice Guys
SUCK!

 Solomon Kane!


Msg # 339  3-Mar-1988  5:30 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: SOLOMON KANE
To: ALL
Subject: YOGURT!

 Recently I was indulging in a can of strawberry yogurt when , suddenly, a
medium siZed squid jumped out of the cannister and rudely attached itself to
my face without asking.. Of course I was angered by this.. so I pulled it off
my fac and threw it at the nearest wall... But did it die?? NO!!! It had to
come back for more.. This time it attached itself to my leg and bit it off..
And you can bet I was mad.. So I ate it..

 Solomon Kane


Msg # 340  3-Mar-1988  5:41 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: soup & sandwich - Reply to # 81

   Yes, now all we need is a..a..PIE OF THE DAY!!!!  Yes, finish off that
wonderful meal with a tasty slice of steaming pastry!!!  What a great idea
(patting myself on the back).

                           -0



Msg # 341  3-Mar-1988  5:46 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Ohhh... - Reply to # 86

 
    What's a good party without a good televangalist burning????

                        -0



Msg # 342  3-Mar-1988  5:49 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: exorcism - Reply to # 91


    Great!!!  You bring the holy water, I'll bring the crucifixes!!!

                         -0




Msg # 343  3-Mar-1988  5:51 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: colour - Reply to # 95

   Of course,  I'd much rather be with a pinkey-green alien than a greeny-pink
one.  Ick.

                          -0



Msg # 344  3-Mar-1988  5:53 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: mee 2 - Reply to # 96

   
   Over the years, abduction has become a favorite activity of mine, too.
Everyone wonders why i vacation in Beirut.

                             -0



Msg # 345  3-Mar-1988  5:54 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: @ - Reply to # 97



 
         Liar, liar pants on fire!


                          -0



Msg # 346  3-Mar-1988  5:57 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: Party!!! - Reply to # 98


    Well, their still a chance to party.  Coming March 27th...




               U.C.C X

     Co-hosted by Derec the Blank
               And Count Zero!!!!


                                -0



Msg # 347  3-Mar-1988  6:03 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: PHILIP BOULDRY JR.
Subject: eulogy - Reply to # 118


    


              Why, thank you!


                            -0



Msg # 348  3-Mar-1988  6:14 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: PHILIP BOULDRY JR.
Subject: You said it! - Reply to # 122


   My thoughts exactly!  Don't you just HATE when they make up stories to get
you to notice them, like...

    
    ...Oh, did I forget to tell you, Alex, I'm really a guy.

    ...Remember Charlie Manson, Alex.  he was really a great guy wasn't he!!!
 
    ...Hello, Alex, I've been preggers for 7 months.  Of course, you've been
too busy to notice.  

   


 ...and then, of course, they say "ha, Gotcha!!!", and you recover slowly from
you bout with major cardiac arrest.  Aren't females great!!!


                           -0



Msg # 349  3-Mar-1988  6:15 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: PHILIP BOULDRY JR.
Subject: Kidnapping - Reply to # 123






               Kinky.



                          -0




Msg # 350  3-Mar-1988  6:17 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: THE FUGITIVE GUY
Subject: Parrot Flesh Fest - Reply to # 130


   Ah, to bathe in parrot puree.

                              -0



Msg # 351  3-Mar-1988  6:25 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: armadillos and ice cream - Reply to # 267


   Yes,  it says that you're both kinky bastards.

                  (but only in the
                   most positive
                   way)

                   -0



Msg # 352  3-Mar-1988  6:33 P.M.
Public message on Audio-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: BLACK KNIGHT (Read)
Subject: CABLE...  The world on your retna. - Reply to # 326


Cable, as some have said, "is glorified TV."
Some had said of TV, "its bubble gum for the mind."

Of all of these things, i say, "experience The Real World.  Cable isn't
anything but what people would like the world to be, but never will be."

Robert Adams
Real World Constructors Corp.



Msg # 353  3-Mar-1988  6:40 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Whatever happened... - Reply to # 332

Whatever happened to nice, wholesome games for nice, red-cheeked children?
Are there no such games in existence anymore?
Or, are there no such children?

Ever notice how the kids on Campbell Soupcans have changed?  I think this is
evidence to support the former.

There's nothing like a good game of Kick The Can.  Why, when i was a kid (and
yes, we had real red cheeks back then, from running around, not sniffing glue)
we used to play kick the can for hours and hours.  Geez, so much fun, hunting
down each other with axes and hand made spears.  

But, times have changed...  And the children have become lazy, skinny or fat,
and have resorted to doing such things only in their heads.

Come on!  Get out there and DO don't THINK these things.
You'd be surprised how much fun you can have in just one day!



Msg # 354  3-Mar-1988 10:00 P.M.
Public message on Games & Games
From: THE COMMANDER
To: ALL
Subject: BBS (No. Easton)
 There a New BBS in North Easton, Ma. :

    'THE ARCADE SHOP'
     300/1200 Baud
     Open 24 Hrs.
     Sysop: THE COMMANDER

     Tel. # (617) 238-0983

Give them a call sometime .... THANKS


Msg # 355  4-Mar-1988  5:47 A.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: I like it!
Gee...now if only you'd upgrade to 1200 baud.  So, you're coming out to SB soon
to assist me on my ST Citadel BBS?  How generous, thanks!  So, you've ben
enjoying xanax?  I doubt you've broken my record of 40 milligrams a day,
though. (I doubt it would be advisable...!)  Does Robert call this board?
Have him send me mail.  Tell him I'm supporting Paul Simon for pres.

Until I have more time...(I'll log on again in about two days)



Msg # 356  4-Mar-1988  5:55 A.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Let's inveigh eachother. - Reply to # 353
<A quick explanation: When I bought out Campbell's soup, I began printing the
diseased, battered faces of all the children I've been able to kidnap on the
can labels.>

Indeed, the red-cheeked youth that once overpopulated our wonderful public
schools have been dragged by foot - long cockroaches into the dark space
underneath my bed, where I go to torture them every night.

So, are you still molesting homeless little girls, Robet? ;-) Seems I remember
that was one of your few publicly mentionable habits, back in the days when.
You now possess a Mac SE?  Did you know that STs can run (ordinary) Mac
software faster than the (ordinary) Macs?  My personally modified ST can also
power fourty electric chairs simultaneously, without hindering the performance
of my word processor...!



Msg # 357  4-Mar-1988  6:13 A.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Television: the plug-in drug. - Reply to # 352
<On a sidenote, Charles Bukowski, author of 'Great Poets Die In Steaming Pots
of Sh*t', a truly original modern poet, suggested that the government released
LSD and television to the public accessibility in order to keep our minds off
our cruel, grey reality.  Colorful, flashing non-reality is really much more
pleasant.  We are provided with an alternative to trying to improve our world,
which would necessitate removing many powerful officials....A slightly
incoherent sidenote.>

Literature, though, keeps the mind active _and_ presents us with greater
dimension and order/beauty/emotion than "real" life.  I don't believe that
literary experiences are much less intense than "real" life ones, but they are
weak enough that we can see a murder without being traumatized (emotionally
disturbed, etc) as we would by witnessing a "real" one, and still we can see
how terrible murder is.  I'm thinking about Shakespeare plays, yes...but
seeing with the mind's eye can be just as effective as seeing them performed.
"The third dimension hides itself", as another poet (forgotten who) wrot       
 

One more thing.  According to scholars, the point of showing grotesque scenes
in good drama is to _sharpen our sensibilities_.  I agree with this.  As I
said above, we see how terrible crimes are without having to learnm about them
by direct experience.  However, what about the innumnerable murders shown in
the dead teenager movies such as 'Friday the Thirteenth', can those be
regarded in the same way?  I wouldn't expect so, and yet I haven't found any
strong differences between them and the ones in artistically respectable films
(the murders themselves, the nature of the crimes are greatly different).



Msg # 359  4-Mar-1988  8:04 A.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: STEVE H.
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Weapon - Reply to # 331
I'll use the staff.

        *Steve*


Msg # 360  4-Mar-1988  8:08 A.M.
Private message on Obstupefaction City
From: STEVE H.
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Co-Op
Bob,

    Here are the addresses that I told you about yesterday:


         1) Computer Operator on IBM             S/36
            George Pereira
            135 Will dr.
            Canton, MA 02021


         2) Programmer
            Learn "Powerhouse"
            Box LF-29
            The Enterprise
            P.O. Box 1450
            Brockton, MA 02403



Don't forget to send your resume in to these places.

                    *Steve*


Msg # 361  4-Mar-1988 12:15 P.M.
Private message on "AD&D Sub"
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Char" - Reply to # 301


   Hmmm... Give be a dwarf palidin <Or at least the best race for a palidin...>
and I will be nutral good.


-Derec


Msg # 362  4-Mar-1988 12:23 P.M.
Public message on "Back Room!"
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP
Subject: I will Play - Reply to # 19

 I will play if I can be a Human Ranger, with a big sword that goes"Chop! Chop!
Choppy!!!"

  I killed my alter-ego!



Note:From solomon kayne... another player... I dont think maxwell or pao are to
serious...



Msg # 363  4-Mar-1988 12:37 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: 1200 - Reply to # 358


   An incompatibility between this software and the commdore 64 emulation on my
computer... 1200 just refuses to work... but once I get my hands on another 64
<hopefuly next week> I will be going 1200!!!  

       


Msg # 364  4-Mar-1988  3:21 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: [Televangelist burning] - Reply to # 341

   A party without a televangelist burning in effigy (better yet, in person!)
is NOT a good party.

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: Think Doc will let us immolate Pat Robertson after we're finished with
the Nude Jell-O Wrestling?

P.P.S.: Welcome back to the world of telecom!!! Parents weren't home or
something??



Msg # 365  4-Mar-1988  3:23 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: [Exorcism] - Reply to # 342

   OK, it's a deal. I'll get the holy water from Brother John...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 366  4-Mar-1988  3:26 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: [females] - Reply to # 348

   I'd certainly expect the first two anytime from Gail...

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: That's not what happened with Laura (the bitch, not telecom), is it?!



Msg # 367  4-Mar-1988  3:28 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [kids nowadays] - Reply to # 353

   The answer to all the questions is "no."

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 368  4-Mar-1988  3:31 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: [Oh God!!] - Reply to # 356

   Now we're REALLY in for it!! Rogozhin vs. Robert Adams!! Ack!!! Quick!
Everybody duck! Flying indigestible intellectualisms!! Take cover!!

         --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 369  4-Mar-1988  3:35 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: [Atari BBS? WHERE?!?!?!] - Reply to # 358

   Are you serious, Rogozhin? An Atari BBS with 200 new messages a DAY??? This
sounds too good to be true! It must be out in California or someplace
inaccessible like that!! Am I right?
   I see that you own an Atari ST. It's good to finally see someone else with
an Atari computer! I have an Atari 130XE with 128K, most of which is never
used. Ah well.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 370  4-Mar-1988  3:37 P.M.
Private message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Paladin] - Reply to # 361

   I don't quite know how to put this, but only humans and half-elfs can be
paladins. Also, paladins can only be lawful good. Sorry. Still wanna play one?
I'll still roll him up.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 371  4-Mar-1988  3:44 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: STEVE H. (Read)
Subject: [Ta da!!!]

   OK, Steve, here's yer character:

Steve H.
5th level human magic-user
Neutral

Strength: 8
Intelligence: 18
Wisdom: 11
Dexterity: 16
Constitution: 15
Charisma: 9
Comeliness: 12

Age: 41
Height: 6'0"
Weight: 193 lbs.
Hair: Black
Eyes: Lt. green

Hit points: 18
Experience points: 26,721

Magic Items:
Cloak of Elvenkind
Staff +3
Ring of Protection +2
Bracers of Defense Armor Class 6

Armor Class: 2 in front/4 in back

Spells Usable Per Day:
4 first level
2 second level
1 third level

Spells:
1st level: Charm Person, Feather Fall, Find Familiar, Identify, Light, Magic
Missile, Read Magic, Shocking Grasp, Sleep, Write
2nd level: Detect Invisibility, Invisibility, Knock, Levitate, Melf's Acid
Arrow, Stinking Cloud, Web, Wizard Lock
3rd level: Blink, Dispel Magic, Fireball, Lightning Bolt, Protection from
Normal Missiles



Msg # 372  4-Mar-1988  3:51 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: STEVE H. (Read)
Subject: [continued]

   I realize a lot of this mustn't make much sense, but whatever you need
explained, I'll do so. I'll start with your statistics.
   All attributes are measured from 3 (the worst) to 18 (the best). With an 8
Strength you're slightly below average, but won't suffer any penalties. An 18
Intelligence means you are a certifiable genius. When you progress enough, you
will be able to use the most powerful magics. An 11 Wisdom means you're about
average in common sense and willpower. A 16 Dexterity means you're light on
your feet and quite agile; you get a bonus of -2 on your armor class (the
lower the better). A 15 Constitution means you're quite healthy and in good
shape; consequently you get 1 extra hit point whenever you go up a level
(magic-users receive 1-4 hit points per level). A 9 Charisma means you're dead
average in leadership. A 12 Comeliness means you're average in looks. While no
Quasimodo, you're not exactly Don Juan either.

   I'll explain more later when I have more time, OK?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 373  4-Mar-1988  3:59 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: STEVE H. (Read)
Subject: [Hit points, experience points, and armor class]

   Well, since Derec doesn't seem to be around, I'll explain some more.

   Hit points reflect how much damage you can take before dying. 18 hit points
aren't that much; a longsword does a base 1-8 hp damage, so you'd do well to
surround yourself with armored fighters. As you go up in levels, your hit
points go up as well. Magic-users get 1-4 hit points per level, about the
least of the classes.
   
   Armor class reflects how easy or difficult it is for you to be hit by
weapons. An armor class of 2 is pretty respectable; it's equal to someone
wearing plate mail armor. The reason it's 4 in back is because you don't get
the Dexterity bonus cuz you don't have eyes in the back of your head and can't
see what's going on back there. AC 10 is an unarmored person, while -20 is a
virtual walking tank.

   Experience points are gained by killing monsters and getting treasure. Each
monster is worth a different amount depending on how easy or difficult it was
to kill. One gold piece acquired as treasure is equal to 1 experience point.
You need a total of 40,000 experience points to advance to the next level.

   I hope this makes things a bit clearer.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 374  4-Mar-1988  5:15 P.M.
Private message on BRILLIANT!
From: ROB
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: My BBS
SysOp Derec the blank
This Is The SysOp From The
Brockton BBS (T.T.T.L.)
I Can Think Of Many Reasons Why You Can't Get Ahold Of And Log-On To My BBS:
1) Hours. 3:30-6:00(Exception To Today Today Is 3:30-9:00)
2) Parimeters
Duplex : Half (Or Echo)
Parity : EVEN
Data Bits : 7
Stop (Bits) : 1
Auto Linefeed: ON
Try These Or Put Me On CHAT Mode When I'm On Your System And I CAN Start My
BBS.....
It Has A Huge Main Menu See:
**MAIN*MENU**----Sage Enterprise----
Y>ell For Sysop 1
A>SIGN-ON With This System
B>Love List
C>Stats
D>Post A Message
E>Sign-Off
F>View Download Files
G>Download
H>Upload
I>Message Base
J>Feedback to Sysop
K>Feedback to Cosysop
L>Inital Welcome
M2>MENU 2
N>User Log
O>System News(New Scheludule)
?>Main (This Menu)
P>Comment
Q>User Post (Text Before Choice Statement)
R>Login Post(Text Before Log-On)
S>Log-Off Post(Text Before Log-Off)
T>Read About Some Changes(Future)
U>Read System Info(Software Etc...)
V>ATC+ (Have Omos0ull Access)
^**Must Be Signed On For Over 1 Month**^
W>X.O.N (Unable To Infom About Unless Athorized By Sysop)
^**Must Be Signedn For Over 1 Month**^
X>Leave VERY Private Message To Sysop
Y>Leave VERY Private Message To Cosysop
Y2>System Info News (About Future Games,Info,Etc.)
Z>Scramble For Higher Access Level
^**For SysOp Useage Only, Unless Authorized By SysOp
00>Read Mail
01>***Reserved For Future Use***
 


Msg # 375  4-Mar-1988  5:39 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: SOLOMON KANE (Read)
Subject: ...hmph!
So, did you guys decide to "take off" on me?  Well.. there are 6 new amiga
ownerrs at the UCC going... but you decided to take off, therefore..

Ugh, it's so terrible to tell you...

Should I invite YOU  to the  UCC?



Msg # 376  4-Mar-1988  5:55 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: ALL
Subject: >> UCC X <<

Ok, Coming MARCH 27th!  The grand party of the century!  Brought to you by me,
Frump, Derec the Blank, and Count Zero!

       ------ U C C  X -------

Starting at NOON at Doc's house!
There will be AMIGAS galore, 64's, 128's, and a band with a 200 watt PA system.
 Nude jello wrestling!  Effigy of Pat Robertson optional.  BY INVITATION ONLY.
 Of course, one small warning, all of the planned features are subject to
cancellation for one reason or another, but we plan all this stuff.  There are
approx. 50 people invited, including female speices.  Call UNDERWORLD 880-0732
to check for your invitation if you're a regular user to the UW!  (Some
exceptions vary).

Bring $5.00 for pizza!  All out fun!  Wrestling, doing anythinng allowed.
Special wall breaking demonstration by Longshot included, by using his head,
he will break a portion of a wall.  By throwing him up in the aair, he will
brillanntly and masterfully break the ceiling.  !!!!!!UCC X!!!!!!! - One hell
of an event...



Msg # 377  4-Mar-1988  5:55 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: ...
Talk to admiral, yet?  I've got 3-5 more amiga owners coming.

-DC


Msg # 378  5-Mar-1988  4:57 A.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Atari, the Abaq. - Reply to # 369

Yes, the BBS I mentioned (The Sanctuary, <805>687-1075, 300/1200/2400 baud) is
out here.  Locally, there are only about fifteen Atari BBSers, but there are
two (soon to be three) Atari systems.

Have you heard of the Abaq?  This machine has graphics that make the Mac II
really look primtive...its speed is considerably better than the Mac II's 16
Mhz., also.  Unfortunately, Atari hasn't completed it yet, but it is past the
_vapourware_ stage.  

Only Ataris contain _wetware_, though.   Every Mega ST has a microthin, frozen
slice of Alfred E.'s cortex, which replaces the old 68000 microprocessors of
the lesser STs (wrong to call them _lessers_, of course...they're all supreme
beings with circuit behavior based on Cunfucian ethics).



Msg # 380  5-Mar-1988  6:01 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: +-=*^ ^*=-+

Frumpy: Of the two choices you gave, I'd chose 'snot'.  Monosyllables have
always appealed to me more than larger words.

Frumpism: I think being removed from the earth and placed in any other
civilized world, without any fellow earthlings, would be too great a shock for
me to endure.  Unless, with the alien's super-sophisticated medical
technology, they could remedy my inability to adapt.  If I had to abandon
earth culture entirely, there would, I say with conviction, be nothing to
prevent me from compete and utter insanity...leading inevitably to suicide.
How could I give up Russian literature, or Dante?  (Fatal nostalgia, probably.
I don't think any other art, regardless of how developed, could fulfill my
need for Max Ernst and the others.)  On the more mundane side,  I'm addicted
to Camel filters.

Robertovitchsky: After reading about ten typically satisfying messages from
you, I confess I don't really know where to begin.  I'll comment on several
outstanding points in my memory.  Continue on whichever of these you like.

Don't you agree with the Confucianist views that if we treat people like thugs,
or undesirables, they'll (unless they've got Walt Disney's self-esteem and
emotional shock absorbers) become that, and if you treat thugs as sensitive,
socially acceptable beings, they'll become that?  Are my chips malfunctioning
when they tell me that this is one of the several things Confusianism has in
common with Christianity, the belief that you 'ought' to treat people as you
would like them to be?  (Of course, this can't always be applied.  If you
treat a retardate [real word!] like a Stephen Hawking, or a genius, you're
liable to frustrate him terribly.)  

Does the Bible really state that if God says something, it's logical?  That can
be said of any under-minded (colon hyphen end parenthesis!) mortal.  One just
has to design an appropriate logic.  Of course, that is probably figurativ


Msg # 381  5-Mar-1988  6:21 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [contd.] more fun for you 40 column users.
That's probably figurative, and my guess would be that the Bible is telling us
that essentially everything that God says is law (not in the sense of
legality).  This is one superiority I see in Taoism -- it contains no such
claims, and also tells us that ethics (such as Confucianism, which provided
most of these for the older Taoists) should not be followed rigorously, taht
this will lead to restriction, and even faulty responses, since in devising a
system of ethics, even Kung Fu Tzu (Confucius) couldn't have considered enough
morally confusing situations to make a perfect (for all time) code.  My main
complaint against this thinking (God's word = law) is that the world changes
too much for something said thousands of years ago to still be applicable in
nearly as many cases as it was _then_.  Just how worldly was Jesus?
Presumably, he was _other_wordly_ in addition, but did he display knowledge of
any cultures other than that he was brought up in?  (Detailed references, I
mean.)  I realize that changes are made in Christianity, and that we have
priests and trained interpretors of the bible to guide us.  But doesn't the
fact that they're all so earthy (opposed to divine) vitiate their thoughts on
texts so divine as the Bible?  We claim no real change in the organisims of
preists, do we?  If not, what prevents a wise non-religious man from making
equally good judgements?  What gives the trained Bible student better insight
than the intelligent and learned ordinary Christian, according to your
knowledge of teh church?  Does the fact he's been through formal training
allow him to make better judgements?  That right there presumes some
superhuman characteristics in him, since all men are equally susceptible to
mistakes in thinking.  Is it just that the church _Uppers_ believe trained
students of teh Bible are _generally_ more correct?  (Is it that they wish to
continue  popular


Msg # 382  5-Mar-1988  6:37 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [contd.] Yet more fun for you 40 columnists.
(Is it that they just wish to encourage popular employment of priests, to keep
their schools alive, and to continue expanding on political power...truly!)
In S.B. telecom, there are two Christians who incessantly tell other users
_more_ than we want to know about their faith.  One is a normally employed
man, and the other a (authentic) Catholic priest.  They both bore me to death
with their loquacity, but the former has _exceptional_ ability with
dialectics.  None of the arguments he's considered extensively have been
out-done in debate, and his understanding of his own personal beliefs is
extraordinary.  (I have complaints about his basic thinking, of course, and he
does try to escape certain points at time...)  This person clearly has a
better understanding of Christianity and philosophy in general than the
priest. The question I've drifted towards is Are priests authoritative?  If
not, what has kept Christianity so _the same_ throughout history, in fact so
much less altered than other equally (there's a bit you might not consider
correct) complete religions, such as Taoism?  

Anyway, this is longer than I expected, so just one more thought string.
Laura, you claimed that you don't have a psychic need for God.   I believe
what Robert figuratively stated (I may be wrong...didn't even read teh message
you were replying to) was that everyone has a psychic need for a
_higher_power_, not necessarily God as He's usually conceived in the Western
world.  I compeltely agree with this.  If you don't have such a need, then why
do you have a higher power?  You do -- though I'm not sure whether it's
television, your parents, or what.  I think what characterizes _higher_power_
as I mean it from anything more pwoerful than yourself is your faith in it:
your trust where you shouldn't logically trust it.  


Msg # 383  5-Mar-1988  6:58 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ALL
Subject: Since religious discussions are suddenly so popular here...
Anselm's "Proof" of God's existence is something along these lines.

"God is that than which nothing greater can be conceived."

From what I've experienced (admittedly not a whole lot), all people agree that
God is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.  In short, nothing greater can
be conceived.  (If it can be, what is greater than God? [Please don't tell me
jokingly "Technology!"]) If he does not exist, then he is not "that than which
nothing greater can be conceived", since he lacks existence.  Thus, we have a
hopeless contradiction, for "that than which nothing greater cannot be
conceived" is not "that than which nothing greater can be conceived".  

"Therefore, something than which a greater cannot be conceived so truly is that
it is impossible even to conceive of it as not existing."

He concludes that it is impossible for us to conceive of God not existing,
which most people would contradict nowadays.  Anyone who would contradict him
while believing God has these three _omnis_ is automatically wrong.       
There are severe problems with his ideas, but I'll get to them later.



Msg # 384  5-Mar-1988 12:27 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: [Have I ever heard of the Abaq?] - Reply to # 378

   No, I can't say that I have. But it sounds interesting. I'm interested in
hearing anything about Atari rebounding from the Great Video Game Crash of '84
Onwards. I hope Atari begins supporting its 8 bit machines again SOON!! Right
now the only use this computer's getting is on the modem! Still, with the
advent of this XE game system (which is just a watered down version of my
computer) maybe there's some light at the end of the tunnel after all...

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: I've heard of a BBS in Brockton where supposedly 99% of the users have
Atari computers. Sounds like heaven! I sure can't call California; heck, I
can't even make long-distance calls here!
   By the way, what part of California do you live in? I went out there for
about three days approximately 5 years ago while we were on our way to
Honolulu. My parents have friends there who live in Oakland, and we visited
them. I really liked it out there, but I don't know as I'd want to live out
there (no offense!). My favorite part of the trip was seeing the Winchester
Mystery House. Now there was a lady after my own heart and style!



Msg # 385  5-Mar-1988 12:30 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: [     ] - Reply to # 379

   If you don't mind my asking, Rogozhin, how exactly can you afford to make
hour-long calls to B'Water MA from California???
   By the way, could you please stop using the "_"s? They may look like arrows
to you, but to me they appear as underscores. Thank you.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 386  5-Mar-1988 12:40 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: [Finally! It's done! Yay!] - Reply to # 382

   I think I just saw Brother John boarding a plane to California with a chair
that had your name written all over it, Rog...
   Seriously, though, I thought that was just beautiful! If BJ ever sees this,
it should be quite interesting, to say the least.
   As for your psychic need stuff, (I am only KIDDING on this!!) Cthulhu
fulfills my needs enough. So basically are you saying that someone (or
something) that we consider better and more powerful than ourselves can be on
the receiving end of a psychic need?

          --> Frumpy <--

(Not really an atheist or an agnostic; I feel there is a God, but He's awfully
busy running the Universe and how can He have time for insignificant mortals
such as us?)

P.S.: If I really were a Cthulhu worshipper (and I'm NOT!!!), then I would
believe in neither God nor Satan, only Mighty Cthulhu. Got that?



Msg # 387  5-Mar-1988 12:42 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: [This author dude] - Reply to # 383

   Hmmmmm...This sounds remarkably familiar to the writings of a certain Oolon
Colluphid...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 388  5-Mar-1988 12:45 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: [AD&D game]

   Would you be at all interested in joining our little AD&D game, Rogozhin?
You seem like the sort of chap who would play AD&D (meant in a positive way,
of course!). The only stipulation is that you have to call in like three times
a week (but then again, this doesn't seem like much of a problem for you
lately). So whaddaya say?

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 389  5-Mar-1988 12:47 P.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ALL
Subject: [Derec]

   Well, everybody, you may be interested (then again you might not be; I don't
know) to know that Derec [the Blank] has been behaving more and more like a
true sysop lately. For example, he's ignored all my chat requests this week!
Now is this a true sysop or what???

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: Derec, I'm sure you have perfectly valid reasons for not chatting (you
were probably cutting your toenails), but I feel this must be said.



Msg # 390  5-Mar-1988  3:09 P.M.
Private message on Games & Games
From: ROB
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: BBS
DEREC PLEASE TRY TO CONTACT ME I'M THE SYSOP OF THE BROCKTON BBS YOU'VE BEEN
TRYING TO GET THOUGHT TO PLEASE TRY TO GET THROUGH IF LINE IS BUSY KEEP
TRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(586-7926)

Thanks

System Operator Brockton BBS
                                  ROB ][Sysop][



Msg # 391  5-Mar-1988  4:31 P.M.
Private message on Games & Games
From: ROB
To: THE COMMANDER
Subject: BBS
The Commander This Is The SysOp From The Brockton BBS
I've Been Trying To Get Ahold Of You For A Long Time

                                 ROB ][SysOp][



Msg # 392  5-Mar-1988  4:36 P.M.
Private message on Games & Games
From: ROB
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: BBS AND YOU
Hi Laura Babe,
         Whats Up ??? Nothing Much Here Yo Like Why Not Call The Brockton BBS
(586-7926)
It's Cool Like You Know..
Well I Guess Like You Don't Know Well

Like Give It A Ring
By Babe

 Later,

System Operator Brockton BBS
                                 ROB ][SysOp][

Later Babe.......


Msg # 393  5-Mar-1988  5:32 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: Filtered Reality - Reply to # 357

What you say about reading is true.

However, i can't find the merit in experiencing something such as a murder with
it filtered enough so that one can recognize its brutality, stupidity, and
waste, and still not be traumitized by it.

Firstly, i think the trauma is a major part of that which adds to such
recognitions.  And secondly, reality seldom damages a healthy perception, no
matter how harsh the reality may be.

Robert Adams


Msg # 394  5-Mar-1988  5:42 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: Reading, a place to stay and escape - Reply to # 357

What you said about reading, is as i said, very true.  It offers us an
opportunity to experience some incredible things through the perceptions or
imaginations of others.

But, it can be an unhealthy practice.  Reading can act as a crutch, an escape
from reality.  I think this is wrong, as it has some of the same unproductive
affects as TV or drugs.

Something i noticed recently was that the more complex the world becomes the
less depressed we get.  Meaning, when you are in a foreign country the sights,
sounds, etc. appear very complex, make you constantly aware.

The less complex our suroundings (familiar streets, houses, rooms) the more
depressed we can become, as we are forced to examine our thoughts rather than
our environment.  We turn in rather than out in our attentions.

But, it can be said that if one's environment is constantly complex, the mind
becomes tired, irratable, and eventually depressed.  Many travelers to Egypt,
where one is CONSTANTLY bombarded with musuems, tombs, temples, etc. become
depressed after awhile, sometimes leading to nervous breakdowns.

And it can also be said that familiar surroundings can offer comfort and
pleasure.  Nothing like comming home after a long long trip.  Or in sitting
down in your room after a day at work or school.

I believe a constant mixture of both the complex and unfamiliar with the simple
and familiar is the best mixture of reality.

Be stimulated, but be casual about it.

Robert Adams


Msg # 396  5-Mar-1988  5:51 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Pat Robertson - Reply to # 364

Way things look for March 8th the GOP just might have Pat Robertson as a VP
candidate.

So, you better start liking him.
Ah, to return to the Vuctorian Age !
And with technology no less!

"The Golden Age is at hand."

Robert Adams


Msg # 397  5-Mar-1988  5:56 P.M.
Public message on Audio-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Gee... - Reply to # 368


If the world only liked to think, then maybe they'd grow to like the Thinkers &
Builders.

The Thinkers and Builders who brought them comfort, technology, and escape.
The Thinkers and Builders who toil for the parasites of the world.

You can't stand us, but you can't stand up without us.

Robert Adams


Msg # 398  5-Mar-1988  6:16 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: STEVE H.
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Co-Op
Hey Bob,

    Did you send out your resumes yet? I sent mine out the other morning. Mr.
Davis is just about to give up on Putnam because they won't give him a
straight answer. Oh well see you when ever. Oh yeah I almost forgot, Mr. Davis
wants us to start looking in the papers for jobs. Talk to ya later.


               *Steve*


Msg # 399  5-Mar-1988  7:23 P.M.
Public message on Games & Games
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: Sundry Thoughts on Shabbat
Excellent messages by the way.  You cracked me up on the bit to Laura though;
"You do have a high power - - though i'm not sure if its televsion, your
parents or what."  Classic to be recorded!

Now, some points i liked.  [Treating Others]
Yes, i do think that how you treat others does have a STRONG force in their
behaivor, if they are selfconscious to a high extreme.  It can have a weak
affect in less self aware people (which is what i would favor to be at times).
 I've seen this in myself.  Teachers, bosses, etc..  I am slowly overcomming
this with age, i hope, but hopefully not through decreasing my consciousness.

[God's Word]

The Messiah during his last visit to the planet stated Himself: "Test
everything."  I agree with this.  Test everything, especially that which
claims to be truth!  The Word of God has come to be called that because it has
come to be known as the truth by men in the past.  But, this is no excuse for
us to remain lazy and not try it out for ourselves.  I did, and what i found!

[The Students of Scriptures]

I don't think the preist, theological student, or nunn locked away in Alberta
Canada has any monopoly on Truth or Love.  Many religions have bits of truth
to them, or they wouldn't followed by such numbers of people.

Truth is universal and absolute and nature.  All have access to it, none are
denyed it except by their own assumptions and inclinations.
 
[What's the purpose of theological students]

Being one who endevours to join the ranks of biblical studies i believe i can
accurately state why one would do this.  First off, i love history.  Secondly,
i want to have a stronger faith.  Thirdly, i am following the will of God in
directing my life in such a manner to complete the purpose of giving the whole
world the complete truth about life.
 
I do claim to know the truth.  Meaning, the truth about Reality.  Perhaps not
more about the world than some,   cont...


Msg # 400  5-Mar-1988  7:28 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ALL
Subject: cont...

But, i do claim to know the truth about some things.

Anyone who goes into reading the teachings of the Messiah shouldn't expect to
suddenly know the "great mysteries of the Universe and Time."  He should
expect to know more about the interaction of God with humanity, and more about
God's plan for himself and others.

Hopefully the student of bible is such because he seeks these things, and
desires to give them to others.

[Preits]

A priest should only act as a guidpost, as a highway of easier travel, for the
believer.  He is not THE WORD OF GOD.  He does not have any monopoly on God.
He can't forgive your sins, only you through Christ to God can do that.  A
priest is a glorified bible student or missionary, except one with
presumptions of being a bit holier than the believer who shovels dirt for his
pay, rather than passes pan.

Robert Adams


Msg # 401  5-Mar-1988  7:36 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: Thinking about God - Reply to # 383

We exist in a universe of the finite.  Therefore, a belief in God is
contradictory to an animalistic nature in this universe.

But, man is not an animal, but has an extra quality, a quality that wonders and
seeks to create these wonders.  This is our reason for a belief in a god.

A belief in god is not acheived through study of biology, physics, chemistry,
or anything.  For all of these things brings up un answerable questions that,
with some work, can be answered in time.

A belief in God comes from intervention, grace, those rare moments when the
solid walls of our solid, infinite Universe briefly mix with a higher nature,
another universe other than our own.  That's the foundation of faith in
others.  The catalyst being communication between the species.

Belief in God isn't logical.  Because it goes beyond it.  Its like saying, "run
the track!  but while you're running think of what it would look like to run
from the opposite direction of the track."

Robert Adams


Msg # 402  5-Mar-1988  7:44 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Derec and What He doesn't Do - Reply to # 389

Derec is currently very busy making Hangman programs at "computer school."  
He is also looking for a job.  Understand, he isn't a productive citizen yet.
He has yet to work for one senior citizen's social security check, let alone
earn anything above the poverty rate.
 
What does he do during the short period of time he has free in the 24hrs?
Well, he doesn't read these messages [users take turns replying, didn't you
get your turn last month?]   

He dreams of living in the UK and watching game shows with his pregnant,
barefoot girlfriend while she clips the toe nails attached to he fat feet.



Msg # 403  5-Mar-1988  7:55 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: "Xanax!!!" - Reply to # 389


   Sorry! Seesh! I do answer chat <Just not for you!!! (Grin)>  Sorry! I have
just been busy making a hangman game at school and looking for a job so that I
can support all those "Old" people on socal security!!!


-Derec


Msg # 404  5-Mar-1988  8:00 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: "Busy..." - Reply to # 402


   Sorry? What? I have been busy being sedated by Xanax... It is difficult to
get to the keyboad... Ask rog about the stuff... I am going to just go back to
bed and pay hommige to the Xanax god...



-Derec


Msg # 405  5-Mar-1988  8:32 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: ALARM
To: Derec [The Blank]
Subject: Infocommies - Reply to # 323

 Hello, I'm a big fan o' the Infocoms,
I have many of the old, but barely
any of the new ones. I need help with
Ballyhoo and Sorceror.. I solved
Enchanter ALL BY MYSELF! WOW!
 
 I'm trying to solve Leather Goddesses,
and got an IBM text cheat file, but
there seems to be a difference in
the Catacombs which is the most
important part of the game!
 
 Can someone help me with these?
 
Alarm




Msg # 406  5-Mar-1988  8:56 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: ALARM
To: Derec [The Blank]
Subject: Hangman - Reply to # 403

 Hmmm. Derec, just a question, are
you in H.S. or college? I'm interested
in making my own little BASIC 'thingies' like Hangman and so forth..
 
 <Just wanted to post a message>

Alarm


Msg # 407  5-Mar-1988  9:01 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: ALARM
To: COUNT ZERO (Read)
Subject: Top Secret

 Hello, love this BBS. I would like to
join the "Top Secret" game here, it
sounds like great fun, but haven't
played D&D for a while, but again
once you play you never forget.
 
Alarm


Msg # 409  5-Mar-1988 11:21 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: SOLOMON KANE
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Help Me Stand Up eh?? - Reply to # 397

 Just what have you done to help me stand up Robert Adams?? Other than spout
big words and attempt to act intelligent..

 "Brevity Is The Soul Of Wit"

Solomon Kane..



Msg # 410  5-Mar-1988 11:45 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: DOCTOR COMPUTER
To: SOLOMON KANE (Read)
Subject: ....
Hi, sorry about the invitation,
but it was 1-2 monthhs since you last calledd annd last saw  me... how do I
know you're not just calling to get into thte UCC.. no offense intended
thhough..

-DC


Msg # 413  6-Mar-1988  2:00 A.M.
Public message on Non Fiction
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: STuff. - Reply to # 384
Did you know Atari bought out the Federated chain?  They now control over 40
stores in California, Arizona, Washington, and two or three other states.
This will be like Radio Shack to the Tandy company, and a great convenience
for Atari owners (in these Wetern states).  You know, a 520 ST color system
costs less than an Amiga 500, and probably the only way in which the
Como-dores are superior is in graphics...which advantage is a very small one.
Plus, Atari is vastly more supportive of their customers than the Commie
builders.  There are several multi-user, Atari _owned_ BBSs scattered across
teh country which have all the new public domain releases in their D/load
sections, in addition to information sections.  Also, a couple of Atari
magazines (such as ST X-Press) have their own BBSs.  
Did you know that the ST is the fastest (and least expensive) Unix clone?
Newly released Idris (going for about $800) enables the ST to run most Unix
stuff...Magic Sac MacIntosh cloning package lets the ST run Mac software very
well, and from what I've heard PC Ditto enables STers to use IBM junk fairly
well.  I really doubt there'll be much more support for the 8 bits.  In fact,
once Abaq is released, and everyone begins buying the Mega STs, even the 520
and the 1040 will begin losing attention.  Of course, this is teh same with ll
computer companies.  After the Mac II finds its way into standard market
popularity, fewer and fewer stores will carry stuff for disgusting old Apple
//s, such as the //c, //e, II+, etc.



Msg # 414  6-Mar-1988  2:04 A.M.
Private message on BRILLIANT!
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Underscores, etc. - Reply to # 385
I don't have to pay my own phone bills from Santa Barbara to Bridgewater. Yes,
I use underscores for _emphasis_.  That's intentional.

.s


Msg # 415  6-Mar-1988  2:16 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Reality Reduction. - Reply to # 393

For example, I am well aware how wasteful and cruel homicide is.  I've never
witnessed one, nor have any of my relatives or friends been killed.  This
realization comes solely from dramatic literature, and theatric
representations.  Dostoyevsky does not traumatize normal readers, but he can
bring them to this understanding.  You imply, then, that everyone who sees
murder as we see it has been traumatized by such an experience at least once?
That strikes me as _slightly_ ridiculous.  Certainly the people who have
witnessed it, or who have nearly been murdered, are even more aware than I of
how terrible it is, yet they are no less likely to kill than I am.  And in
fact, people who are traumatized in such a way are often more likely to kill
than those who haven't.

Robert Adams?



Msg # 416  6-Mar-1988  2:32 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Familiarity with Things. - Reply to # 394

Oh, I know that reading can be used as an escape.  I've been using it in such a
way since I was thirteen years old.  I vehemently disagree with you that
reading can make people less able to deal with reality, only unless they
replace reality with literature.  In escaping with writing, which I do for at
least an hour every day, I really don't miss much, and learn far more than I
can fro ordinary life in Santa Barbara.  It is an escape _in_addition_to_
resource, and a source of relaxation.   Oh k...I could agree that reading
trash fiction (Douglas Adams? [!], common erotica, etc.) could be well-nigh as
deleterious as a life in a sleazy movie house.  Anyone who is escaping into
those literary worlds is losing out on a lot.  At any rate, I maintain that
reading good literature cannot be unhealthy to the mind, unless someone
abandons the ugly outside world to explore it.

I know what you mean, I agree on those points about familiarity.  All
non-stagnant beings are constantly searching for new outside experience.
However, we can draw infinitely from one environment, provided we keep
changing our _internal_ environment.  I'm sure I could have developed equally
well if I had been born in Halifax, Ma, and had never left Mass.  For most
people this isn't true, probably...but it's our external and internal
environments we're living in.  

The Vietnam prisoners of war saw virtually no outside changes, some of them
being kept for almost (maybe even) a full decade.  What they did was use their
mind as their main source of stimulation.  



Robert Adams


Msg # 417  6-Mar-1988  3:38 A.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Let me re-write Message #401 so that it fits more closely with my b
eliefs. - Reply to # 401

We exist with sensory organs incapable of perceiving the infinite. Our
knowledge comes from our sensory interpretations of of reality, and our often
faulty perceptions.  Therefore, a belief in God is in keeping with our
animalistic tendencies.

Man is essentially an animal, but possesses the ability to form high order
abstractions.  Hence, religious beliefs.

A belief in God is cannot be defended with sciences, therefore all religious
beliefs cannot be superior to superstition.

Belief in God comes from the inability of science to explain our (often faulty)
perceptions adn experiences adequately.  Our need (not everyone has this need,
of course) to explain what we see, treated with our creativity, gives us God.
When we no longer need Zeus to explain lightning, he loses importance.  When
we no longer need the Genesis to explain the creation of the universe, we look
upon it as mere writing...unless we worship words.  When we no longer need Pat
Robertson to explain bizarre metiorology, he'll drop out of the race...;-)

Belief in God isn't logical because logical systems are based on sensible
reality, and God (common meaning) isn't in sensible reality.  As Bertrand
Russell told us, "Uncertainty is a virtue." Few people are willing to live
with uncertainty, and their own ignorance.  Hence science, and since that's
still incomplete, hence religion.  (Robert, I can imagine you after reading
'few people are willing to live with uncertainty, and their own ignorance'
wondering how I could have missed seeing the 95 percenters, the ones who view
the gathering of information thus: "Duh, that's stupid, why do you sit around
reading when you can be out getting drunk and sex?"  Uncertainty is only a
virtue among teh many self-declared college students, and proud egoist
"intellectuals".  Meaning, people much too quickly try to answer.  Even Kung
Fu


Msg # 418  6-Mar-1988  3:53 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: The last one continued. - Reply to # 401
Kung Fu Tzu (Confucius), when asked to talk about God, said "I'd rather not
speak."  I think _generally_ the people who are the wisest preach far less
than the ones who've just learned to think and talk simultaneously.)
Let me explain some of that.  First, the major religions are vastly superior to
mere supersitions in their ethical systems, the history, art, etc. that goes
along with them.  Otherwise, there isn't much difference from a scientific
point of view.  Of course I agree that they aren't to be approached
scientifically or logically.  Imagine trying to learn about Taoism while being
a math student!  I do believe,though, that for the most part belief in a
traditional, anthropomorphic God is as unacceptable as believing about black
cats crossing paths.  Therefore, Taoism and other Eastern religions are much
more acceptable  to me than Western ones....I do believe in a divine being. To
explain the first part of that last message I wrote, we base explanations on
what we know.  When we know little, our theories are usually faulty.  But
still, we stand by them until they completely collapse.  Obstinacy is seen in
men as it is in animals.
Something else that I was wondering about your personal beliefs, Robert.  Do
you believe the utterance of words can invoke some magic, or can control in a
certain way some divine energy?  Such as prayer?  Some Christians seem to, and
this, considering all sacred Christian texts are in Latin, seems utterly
ridiculous.  



Msg # 419  6-Mar-1988  4:00 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: SOLOMON KANE (Read)
Subject: Has Robert been helping people stand up again? - Reply to # 409

Robert, what did I tell you about standing people up against their will?  Just
toss pancake thin mats on the floor for them to sit on, they'll be able to see
the T.V. much more easily.

Brevity is not the soul of wit.  Cruelty is the soul of wit.  Brevity is teh
soul of lingerie.



Msg # 420  6-Mar-1988  4:18 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: More of this bitchin' religious talk, dudes. - Reply to # 400

You mentioned you are seeking teh "complete truth about life".  Could you
expand on this a little?  Not on your journeys (though that could be
interesting...) but more on teh character of this "complete truth".  

Oh k.  So even teh Bible isn't to Christians necessarily authoritative.  But
isn't it true that other Christians are more likely to trust your beliefs if
tehy're more in keeping with the Bible, and isn't this reason to deny your
actual learnings, if you're the sort to try to please others with your
personal ideas?  Of course.  So, a necessary ingredient in a person of real
learning (or one who's to become truly learned) is a lack of _complete_
respect of his ancestor's, or mentor's, learnings.  Therefore, wouldn't it be
correct to say that Bible worshippers are never truly learned?  Of course, no
one who bases his life on someone else's experince of _his_ (the latter's) is
going to be truly in accord with himself.



Msg # 421  6-Mar-1988 10:55 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: "Rog---St..." - Reply to # 413


  Just one question... Can your ST:


MultiTask <True Multi Task>
Have 4096 colors on the screen at one time
Genlock
Stereo


And get the a full system for under $800???




Msg # 422  6-Mar-1988 11:47 A.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: [Pat Robertson as VP? Ewww!] - Reply to # 396

   Personally I'd rather have Jesse Jackson as VP with George Bush as Pres.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 423  6-Mar-1988 12:02 P.M.
Public message on Humor
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD (Read)
Subject: [All this computer stuff]

   Well, isn't this something?? We seem to be creating another Computer
Superiority War, only with Atari computers, which are some of the most
maligned computers I know of!! This is very interesting...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 424  6-Mar-1988 12:04 P.M.
Private message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Yer character]

   I just remembered that you need to choose the alignment of your High Elven
Thief. Thiefs can be any non-good alignment, but I don't want any evil
characters either. Elves are slightly chaotic by nature, so this seems to
preclude lawful neutral, leaving only neutral neutral or chaotic neutral for
possible alignments. Also, chaotic netural is about as close as you can get to
being neurotic, so perhaps this would be best for you.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 425  6-Mar-1988 12:06 P.M.
Private message on Games & Games
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [LazerTag]

   At Country Place today I saw a dealer who was selling brand-new LazerTag
guns & StarSensors for $20. If I get a chance I think I'll pick one up in case
we decide to do someting with them at the UCC.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 426  6-Mar-1988 12:09 P.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Arthur Dent bathrobes]

   I believe you're still looking for a halfway-decent Arthur Dent bathrobe, so
this might be of interest to you:
   Last week at the Salvation Army in Bridgewater I saw two men's bathrobes in
there that would be most suitable for your purposes. One was a green plaid and
the other was a red plaid. Both were $4 each. They would fit you more than
adequately cuz they are Large size and are almost big for me!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 427  6-Mar-1988 11:30 P.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: My machine.  - Reply to # 421
At the moment, no.  What system does all that?  The Amiga 500 doesn't.  

Fill me in on Genlock...that one's beyond me.

Does the Amiga 500 require extra midi equipment?  Can it run Unix stuff?  If it
breaks, can you call teh company?  Commodore is notorious for its terrible
customer relations.  Someone I've talked (who does still use Commies) had to
write four letters, and even send them a pen to get one response!  



Msg # 428  6-Mar-1988 11:40 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: To speak of...

George Bush?  That guy is no less misanthropic and greedy than Reagan.  Are you
well up on Iran/Contra Gate?  
Anyone who complains about Atari as a whole is off track.  They are wihtout a
doubt one of teh most supportive companies in the entire industry.  People who
complain about Atari are most frequently unaware of what the ST can do, and
generally don't know much about computers.  There is no question that the STs
are the best computers in their price range -- a 520 ST color system can be
obtained for just under $500.  I've used Commie Amiga word processors before,
and the ones that are most expensive are about equal to ST public domain word
pros.  


Msg # 429  7-Mar-1988 12:23 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: "500" - Reply to # 427


It does... Gen lock in for Desk top Video... and It does TRUE multi tasking <St
dosn't> it is expandable to a meg <Remember the 500 is the low end amiga> It
has 2 dos'es so to speak Cli and the workbench <they can be run together...
Diffrent windows...>

But As I said this is the low end machine... the Amiga 2000 If Fully IBM
compatable <The Industry Standard...> In fact it can handle any Ibm
Hardware... and run it in a single window without slowing down the maching one
bit... You can be telecomming while your IBM window calculates whatever it
wants...

As for Graphics... Does the St have any Ray Tracing software available? No??

It has h 68000 processor and 3 seperate chips deicated to graphics sound and
anamation <To go intependant to the processor>

Repairs?? Just run down to the memory location... and get it repaired... No
problem... You should talk about companies!!! Atari has has some of the worst
ethics! they canned  1,800 workers??? how about that great contest they had??
Sworquest?? Hmmm... half the prizes never awarded! Ask frumpy he ordered the
full set of games... paid for them... and never got all of them!! The Amiga
handles MIDI! and so does the 64!!!! But I am more into the graphics...
Concerdering I am planning on getting into computer Anamation I would rather
have the amiga... I Have used the machine and I am Impressed... I have used
the St... I hate the Style,Graphics And the Company <No Offence Frumpy> I had
enough of Atari... I Liked the video games... But Not the computers...


Msg # 430  7-Mar-1988 12:42 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: "Atari..." - Reply to # 428


  The St Is in the same price range as the amiga... And the Mac... it is all
what you like... I prefer the Operating system on the amiga... I would like to
get into Desktop Video,Anamation Etc... For the same price Sure I could get an
st... But would I be happy??? no... Gee It looks nice on my desk... I think I
will call my st friends... Oh darn... No St friends... Well I think I will
boot up dos.... Looks nice...   Now lets get even more Biased! Yes the Apple
IIgs!! Here is a machine with the same league! Lets hear you pick on that
machine! So what has made you such a computer expert so far? Hmm... Must have
been that time at Cray! Yeah! Thats it! Lets see... You went from your
brothers 128 to an st... What made you choose the ST? The Trade in on your
synth? Did you check into the other posibilities??? How about an IBM-Ps2?  It
runs all of the industry standard software and can run OS-2!!!  Why not go out
and Get and IBM-36? Great power in that machine!!! No... We get an Atari...
Fine... You enjoy it... I am getting an Amiga... and I will enjoy it...
Computer arguments are pointless... They are as pointless and the Great Video
game war <Remember ol george!!!> the soft drink war Fast food war!!! It is
poitless!!! Why don't I say Hey rog! I think Fripp Sucks! All the music you
listen to Sucks... My music is better!!!!  Compters are personal... <Silly as
that sounds.> For the past 4 years I have been happy with my commodore... I
have had no complaints <Except for some software problems with Infoquick...
But that is lew lassers fault not the computers>  I have had ALOT of GREAT
experences with this computer... And I hope to have a great time with my amiga
when I get it... and then the next generation of r I get... Be happy with your
St... Have fun... Enjoy! Just stop the "My computer is better" attitude... A
good example was on Arelnet... a user left this message:


  "My Ti-994a is better than the IBM,ATARI,COMMODORE,APPLES!!!!!"


Msg # 431  7-Mar-1988 12:46 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: Compter - Reply to # 427


  Oh Yes and one last thing... In response to "At the moment,no. What system
does alll that? the amiga 500 dosn't?"


 I was listing the Amiga 500 features... and Gen lock is used to mix
Video/Graphics and do Audio mixxing.... I also think the Genlock Attachment
also had a frame grabber... Not sure... Have to look into that one...




Oh and by the way... GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER HIGH HORSE!!!!


-Derec


Msg # 432  7-Mar-1988  6:52 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: ROB
Subject: ??? - Reply to # 392



          babe?

.s


Msg # 433  7-Mar-1988  7:44 A.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: STEVE H.
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: School
Bob,

   If you're going into school Mr. Davis wants us to bring in the help wanted
ads from the papers. I get the Enterprise and the Herald, so if you get the
Globe bring that in so that we can look for jobs. If you do bring in the Globe
don't forget the Comics, I want to read Bloom County, Thanks.

                   *Steve*




P.S. Did you read Calvin and Hobbs yesterday? That was funny; not as funny as
last week, but funny. Later.


Msg # 434  7-Mar-1988 10:28 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: Real World Constructors Corp, - Reply to # 352

   Is that a division of Magrathean Planet Works Inc.???

                             -0



Msg # 435  7-Mar-1988 10:35 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: televangelists - Reply to # 364

   Yes, there's nothing like Tammy Faye's mascara exploding in a myriad of
colors as the unbearable temperatures of the flame cause here vitrious humour
to boil and her eyeballs to explode!!!!

                           -0



Msg # 436  7-Mar-1988 10:36 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: ... - Reply to # 365

  ...And I'll make the crucifixes out of yak bones.

                              -0



Msg # 437  7-Mar-1988 10:39 A.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Nope. - Reply to # 366

    No, as I was calling her up to wish her a happy birthday, she told me that
we "weren't made for each other"  (and who is???).  So, I hung up, took
everything she ever gave me, put it in a box, and put her address on it.  I
have yet to mail it.

                               -0



Msg # 438  7-Mar-1988 10:52 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: Jesus - Reply to # 381

   Question:  What would happen if Jesus lived in the Middle East of the
present???  Although the Middle East of Jesuit times was a violent area, it
was due to an invasion.  Would Jesus react the same in a place torn by civil
war???  Perhaps.

                             -0



Msg # 439  7-Mar-1988 11:06 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: liar - Reply to # 403


   Your trying to get a job to support your pregnant girlfriend and you know
it!!!

                            -0




Msg # 440  7-Mar-1988 11:16 A.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: COUNT ZERO
To: ALARM
Subject: top secret - Reply to # 407


   I'm have a little trouble at home, which has screwed up my computer use
(which is what happens when you have to depend on you fathers shitty IBM).
But it will start soon, and it should be pretty good.  
   Have you ever playes TS before???  If so, we'll be using the new, updated
rules (once I borrow them from Frumpy) and I'll be rolling uop your character
(1st level) and writing the adventures (no store bought modules).  All you
have to do is tell me if you want to be in:

      1: Investigation
      2: Confiscation
      3: Assassination

   There will be no more than 1/3 of each group, so if you want spots in one of
these divisions, speak out now.

                               -0



Msg # 441  8-Mar-1988 10:08 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: "what?" - Reply to # 439


 What???? Who t... Where did you get this pack of lies???


-Derec


Msg # 442  8-Mar-1988 11:50 A.M.
Public message on Fiction
From: JOHN SHANAHAN
To: ALL
Subject: Wasteland
  FICTION FANS!!!
  After several unsuccessful attempts to upload my latest short story, I have
at long last made it!

  Please go to the u/d section and download my story "WALKING THE WASTELAND."
It's a sci-fi story more or less....

   Leave me email and tell me what you think. And enjoy the story!

               John


Msg # 443  8-Mar-1988  4:29 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: [Computer] - Reply to # 428

   Well, I believe I mentioned previously that I have a 130XE, not an ST. Could
you possibly garner up some support on that??

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 444  8-Mar-1988  4:33 P.M.
Public message on Basic Gripes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Atari] - Reply to # 429

   OK, fine. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, no matter how wrong it
may be. <grin>
   Yes, I am still quite p.o.'d about that Swordquest contest; they were
supposed to release four cartridges and three only came out! The fourth one
never materialized. And I was stupid enough to pay $80 for the pack at the
time. Duh...

   Rogozhin, if you might rally to my cause and lodge a complaint on my behalf,
please do so.

         --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 445  8-Mar-1988  4:37 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [TI Superiority?!?!?!] - Reply to # 430

  The only thing possibly even MORE laughable than that statement would be if a
user of a Timex/Sinclair (complete with Chiclet keyboard) said that...

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: Computer superiority IS pointless. All it does is get people mad at each
other. Still, I think you're being a bit hard on Rogozhin, Derec. Sure, he's
Atari-biased, but you seem to be Amiga-biased...



Msg # 446  8-Mar-1988  4:40 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [COMPUTER HIGH HORSE] - Reply to # 431

   Likewise, I'm sure, Derec.
   Look, from what you and a lot of other people have told me, the Amiga sounds
great. It can do a lot of wonderful things. Still, I'm not about to rush out
and buy one just cuz it's the latest thing, and I'm sure you won't either
(yet). Now let's PLEASE move on to more pleasant subjects, people...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 447  8-Mar-1988  4:41 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: [RWC] - Reply to # 434

   That's exactly what I was wondering too...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 448  8-Mar-1988  4:44 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: [Exploding televangelist kabobs] - Reply to # 435

   Yes, then there's the satisfaction of stomping on the charred husks of the
self-righteous (nouns), causing what's left of their faces to disperse into a
myriad dust/ash motes...

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 449  8-Mar-1988  4:46 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: [Yak bone crucifixes] - Reply to # 436

   Bravo, 0! Yak bone crucifixes are the most powerful crucifixes that can be
made. By the way, Tibetans
burn yak oil to provide illumination in their holiest of holy temples.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 450  8-Mar-1988  4:50 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: [Hmmmmm...] - Reply to # 437

   Well, I can't say that's ever happened to me, but I can sympathize. I don't
consider me and Gail to be "going out together" either. Can you really blame
me?? I mean, I like her and all (and you don't; I know, just bear with me),
but after that King Richard's Faire fiasco, I'm not about to put up with any
more of THAT bullshit from her. If she wants to go around jumping into mud
pits and going off with hairy goons she's met five minutes ago, she can, but
without me!!!!!

          --> Frumpy <--

P.S.: I'm still debating about the Senior Prom.



Msg # 451  8-Mar-1988  4:52 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: [Yeah!] - Reply to # 439

   Why else would you willingly give up your status as a parasite???

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 452  8-Mar-1988  4:59 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Here's yer character]

Derec [the Blank]
5th level High Elf Thief
Chaotic Neutral

Strength: 14
Intelligence: 11
Wisdom: 9
Dexterity: 18
Constitution: 15
Charisma: 13
Comeliness: 15

Hit Points: 27
Experience Points: 15,087
Armor Class: 3 in front, 7 in back
Age: 137
Height: 5'0"
Weight: 100 lbs.
Hair: Red
Eyes: Light Brown

Magic Items:
----- ------
Pipes of the sewers (summons up rats to assist you)
Wand of Wonder <65 charges> (any number of random effects)
Leather armor +1
Longsword +1, +4 b~vs. reptiles
Potion of Healing (heals 1-8 hp damage; 2 doses)

Weapon Proficiency: Longsword, short bow, dagger

Thieving Abilities:
-------- ----------
Pick Pockets: 65%
Open Locks: 52%
Find/Remove Traps: 45%
Move Silently: 55%
Hide in Shadows: 51%
Hear Noise: 25%
Climb Walls: 90%
Read Languages: 25%
Backstab at +4 for triple damage.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 453  8-Mar-1988  5:07 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: [Here's your character]

Laura
5th level Human Houri
Neutral

Strength: 10
Intelligence: 15
Wisdom: 9
Dexterity: 16
Constitution: 15
Charisma: 17
Comeliness: 18

Hit Points: 17
Experience Points: 30,260
Armor Class: 3 in front, 5 in back
Age: 21
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 130 lbs.
Hair: Black
Eyes: Silver

Magic Items:
----- ------
Bracers of Defense AC 5
Dust of Disappearance <4 doses> (one dose turns you invisible for 2-20 turns)
10 Sling Bullets +2 (usable once) plus a sling to use them
Wand of Lightning Bolts <41 charges> (each lightning bolt does 6-36 hp damage,
1/2 if saves against)
Cloak of Arachnidia (enables you to climb like a spider, immunity to all webs,
cast a double-strength web spell 1/day, move on giant spider webs like a
spider, +2 on saving throws vs. spider venom)

Weapon Proficiency: sling (stones do 1-4 hp damage, bullets 2-5)

Seduction ability.

Spells:
-------
First level (You can use four of these per day): Charm Person, Fascination,
Silvertongue, Impotence,


Msg # 454  8-Mar-1988  5:09 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA (Read)
Subject: [Argh! Continued]

Kiss of Healing, Kiss of Waking

Second level (you can use three of these per day): Charm Normal Animals,
Jealousy, Ecstacy, Dispel Charm, Kiss of Wounding, Communicate

Third level (you can use one of these per day): Hold Person, Disguise, Charm
Giant Animals, Kiss of Slavery

   OK, if you have any questions whatsoever, just as me!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 455  8-Mar-1988  5:11 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ALL
Subject: [The game]

   The game will start as soon as I have 5 users with characters. If any should
meet an untimely death within,
then substitutes will be accepted. In the meantime, keep those characters
coming!

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 456  8-Mar-1988  6:03 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: BUSH/JESSE - Reply to # 422


   BRAVO, BRAVO!  (jesse?  i'm not sure about him, thouugh i support bush
wholeheartedly)   

      viva republicana!
.s


Msg # 457  8-Mar-1988  6:08 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: images - Reply to # 435

   zero, i'm suprised at you!

 (i only expect that sort of thing from R.Adams , no offense, "ROB")

                        -Laura


Msg # 458  8-Mar-1988  6:24 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: LAURA
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: d&d
 
 how many characters are there, just me and derec?

                   ...\Laura


Msg # 459  8-Mar-1988  7:11 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: BLACK KNIGHT
To: ROBERT ADAMS (Read)
Subject: ?-?
Well Do you like my cable guide?
or not? that is the question!?!

               -BK-


Msg # 460  8-Mar-1988  7:13 P.M.
Public message on BRILLIANT!
From: BLACK KNIGHT
To: ALL
Subject: \
 











         I just have one thing
         to say!!!

 





      "Your a KID (or kid in heart)
       or your FASCIS!"









                        -BK-


Msg # 461  8-Mar-1988  7:15 P.M.
Private message on Humor
From: BLACK KNIGHT
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: this bbs!



         WHAT NO SUB FOR THE DAY
                 COM.

          ?????????????????????

                     ?-BK-?


Msg # 462  8-Mar-1988  9:44 P.M.
Public message on Chiba Hilton
From: SOLOMON KANE
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: THANX - Reply to # 419

 Just What I wanted to say..

 And now that i think about it...
 Brevity is the soul of Lingerie..

 But maybe you could explain the Cruelty is the soul of wit part a litlle
       More fully..

 (As for the pancakes, I would much rather sit on a crisp waffle due to the
fact that they have more support for your back.)

    Solomon Kane..



Msg # 463  8-Mar-1988  9:46 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: SOLOMON KANE
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: UNDER 800?? - Reply to # 421

 Under $800?? Are you talking Amiga 500? And where can you get them for under
$800??



Msg # 464  8-Mar-1988 10:00 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: SOLOMON KANE
To: BLACK KNIGHT (Read)
Subject: WAFFLE - Reply to # 459

 If Robert Adams suddenly got turned into a waflle would it really make a
difference.. Would the world suddenly stop rotating and heave up it's ancient
dead.. Would the world's populace drop everything and cry out in pain because
they had lost thier 'Builder'.. I think Not.. I think all that it would amount
to is a three line space in the national enquirer between 'Girl Pregnant By
Tree' and the 'Tibetan Squirrell With Eight heads Found' article on the last
page..

  Solomon Kane..

  (Snicker)


Msg # 465  8-Mar-1988 10:04 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: If i do say so... - Reply to # 404

Jilted:

Now, wasn't that a purely original reply?
(guess who's turn it was this time!)



Msg # 466  8-Mar-1988 10:06 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ALARM
Subject: I've heard... - Reply to # 405

I heard the other day on a major talk show that Infocom games and other
adventure/script ridden games have caused millions of kids to mollest their
little sisters and brother, and rape their grandmothers (the ones living in
thier kids' homes wasting way) in some instances.  Horrible!  Absolutely
horrible.

And you guys are discussing this JUNK in public?!



Msg # 467  8-Mar-1988 10:13 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: SOLOMON KANE
Subject: Why you are standing... - Reply to # 409

Well, you're standing on sneakers (yes, those generic white hightops) that were
devised by a team of thinkers.

You are learning only English as a primary language and not English & Japanese
as Federal Languages due to a team of thinkers that built the weapon that won
WWII (a war we almost lost).

And me?  What have i done?

I got you to ask that question...  Which is the most constructive thing you've
done in telecom since i can remember (since i've been in telecom, beginning
about 1980).

Thanks for your response!

Robert Adams


Msg # 468  8-Mar-1988 10:22 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: Traumatic effects - Reply to # 415

The mental sensations one gets in actually seeing a murder as opposed to
someone who remotely (reading, photos, TV, etc.)  experiences mostly likely do
cause that person to be more inclined to murder.  Agreed.  I don't believe i
stated otherwise.

But, i stated that i don't seen MERIT in explicitely reading/viewing a murder
from remote experience.  It tends to desensitize the person to the act MORE SO
i think.  For in such a realm consequence is some how lost.

How often we hear about someone in an accident who is brain damaged, and say to
ourselves "better if they die, for the family, etc..."  But, after you
experience the loss of a person, a TOTAL LOSS, you don't find yourself saying
that.  And when you do, you usually stop yourself and really think about the
actual consequences, the full consequence.
 
Robert Adams


Msg # 469  8-Mar-1988 10:31 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: Reading escapes - Reply to # 416

Oh, of course there is literature that is useful, additive, and productive to
our lives, and that also can be enjoying, relaxing, et all.

But, as you said, when that TOOL is misused to a point where the outside world
(beautiful or ugly) is abandoned or nearly neglected it is a misused tool, and
becomes a crutch, if not a severe handicap.

Music, books, computers, your cat, your wife, should all be enrichments of our
world, not a world in themselves.  Our world is our only chance in this life
to create a working model of our dreams, thus far no other device allows this
to such a complete extent.  Until that time, we have no higher choices than to
create and fool around with this world.  Its not just a choice, a challenge,
or convincing game, but our responsobility.

Every moment you continue to live (physicaly) in this world you are saying you
choose to be a player.  But, when you withdraw in these escapes you are
reneging on your commitment to other players, AND using up resources that
could be better used by an active player.

Robert Adams (cute...cute...)



Msg # 470  8-Mar-1988 10:39 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: Lotsa things, but one... - Reply to # 417

You discussed quite a few things, but one i found interesting.

There is, as you said, a whole HUGE population that loves uncertainity to a
very strong degree.  Uncertainity within themselves, with their role in the
scheme of things.

A person who continiously attends parties (and i have met people that are
actually nomadic in their lifestyle, attending party after party each night...
its VERY weird, and sick) and think nothing of who they are, or what they are.

Look at a party for example.  And average HS party.  Its FILLED with
uncertainity.  That's the whole basis of the thing, to wallow in that which HS
is made up of...  Uncertainity.  What is the purpose of the party?  Of the
dancing?  Of the drinking?  Of the small talk?  Of the sex in the bathroom?
("What are you stupid?  Its to have a good-time!!!!)  Bullshit.  Minus perhaps
the sex, and that isn't even really enjoying taking into account how most of
them view it and go about it.

There are many, many people with lives of uncertainity.  If they truly don't
enjoy it, then perhaps they are too lazy or scared to do anything about it.

Robert Adams


Msg # 471  8-Mar-1988 10:46 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: God and let's talk - Reply to # 418

I don't believe this world invokes any intellectual need for a god.  Matter of
fact, i think this world is specifically designed to be neutral in terms of
the whole thing.  The world says "its all finite" and then says "its all
infinite."  "Look, a rock is rock.  Its there, and there are only so many
rocks in the world."  or   "Look at the rock.  Look at the molecules.  Look at
the atoms.  Look at the quarks. Look at the...."  

There is no need for a god.
There is always a need for a god.

As to words and the metaphysical.  No.  I don't believe a series of sounds has
any importance in the supernatural realm than does the banging of paper and
rock together.  I do believe that what the spirit says, expressed through
words, and thus strengthening its power within ourselves, does have
signfigance.

Its what's on the inside that is heard, not what's said.

Robert Adams


Msg # 472  8-Mar-1988 10:51 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: Complete Truth - Reply to # 420

Indeed, respect for the assumed and accepted without personal understanding is
unholy and foolish.

The complete truth i seek is, is to seek what is Reality.  I want to know
what's going on here, and what;s going on over there behind the scenes.  For
both sides are inseperable in effects.

("Mystic Rythems")

One thing which i've come to despise to a very large degree are believers that
believe without thinking.  How valuable are they to God?  They are no better
than a man that believe his neighbor is Another Messiah because the guy claims
to have come directly from Heaven.  

Let there be no Fools of God.
Just Men of God.

Robert Adams


Msg # 473  8-Mar-1988 10:55 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Ya! - Reply to # 421


Ya, Rog...  And can your ST make toast?
            Can your ST split atoms?
            Send microwave signals to Seti I?
            Make bright coloured roses into glass?
            Cook low density, high strength brick?

And just what about cloning HIV-2?

Robert Adams



Msg # 474  8-Mar-1988 10:57 P.M.
Public message on Games & Games
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: JILTED FRUMP (Read)
Subject: Jackson + Proudly Facist - Reply to # 422

Jackson, in my opinion, is incredibly dangerous to the USG.

He's a facist, antisemitic, and very dishonest.

Not to mention past offenses of association!


Msg # 475  8-Mar-1988 11:01 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: Hey, listen! - Reply to # 428

Hey, didn't you hear that Regan said George Bush wasn't there while Iran/Contra
Gate was discussed?

Geez, these liberals...  And, yes, it was only discussed ONCE.



Msg # 476  8-Mar-1988 11:08 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: "Jesuit" times? - Reply to # 438

Umm..  Jesuit times?  Was that during the Jesuit's Order?

During JESUS's TIME...  Yes, the place wasn't a happy place.  It was an
occupied land, called palastine.  There were occasional disturbances, and
several illegal revolutionary groups.

Matter of fact.  One of his disciples was a member of one.  Judas (the one that
sold him for a bag of silver to the priests).  Jesus was very much against
rebellion.  "Give to Caeser what is Caeser's, and God's to God."
Many tried to push Jesus into becomming a figure head for the planned rebellion
(which happened sometime after his crucifiction).

The time of Jesus's ministry on Earth and now are very much the same.  Very
much, just a bit worse (we're covering the whole earth now).

Robert Adams


Msg # 477  8-Mar-1988 11:14 P.M.
Public message on Visual-Input
From: ROBERT ADAMS
To: SOLOMON KANE
Subject: Hmmm... - Reply to # 462

Support for back?
What back????????



Msg # 478  9-Mar-1988  7:25 A.M.
Private message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: STEVE H.
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: Chat
What do you mean you're not available for chat?! Just kidding. Well if you're
going to school today I'll see you there, if not then I'll see you around.
Later.

                     *Steve*


Msg # 479  9-Mar-1988 11:16 A.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: SOLOMON KANE
Subject: "500..." - Reply to # 463


  You can get the 500,Monitor for aroun $760... <Mail Order> But they don't
have gen lock for it yet <Stress yet...> but they I am sure are working on
Genlock for the 500 soon



Msg # 480  9-Mar-1988 11:21 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROBERT ADAMS
Subject: "Infocom!" - Reply to # 466



 WHAT! YOU DARE INSULT THE GREAT INFOCOM GOD!!! BUN THE HERITIC!!! WE MUST
SACRIFISE HIM WHILE CHANTING "GNUSTO OZMO!" BURN! BURN!!!!!

>Save
>Burn the Infocom Heritic with the  torch.

  What Torch do you mean? The Dead torch or the red flaming torch?

>the red flaming torch.

 You Sta...




Msg # 481  9-Mar-1988 11:23 A.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: Derec [The Blank]
To: ROBERT ADAMS
Subject: "I have herd..." - Reply to # 466


   I have herd on a talk show recently that insulting infocom/Script ridden
games on a BBS where the sysop is currently worshiping the company Is the
leading cause of Vaporization...  But it was all speculation <Grin>

-Derec


Msg # 482  9-Mar-1988  2:41 P.M.
Public message on Obstupefaction City
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
Subject: [George Bush] - Reply to # 428

   Exactly. Who better to run this glorious country of ours???

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 483  9-Mar-1988  2:51 P.M.
Public message on "AD&D Sub"
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: LAURA
Subject: [Characters] - Reply to # 458

   No, Steve H. has a magic-user character as well.  I would like it if the
next two characters could be some sort of fighter and a cleric, cuz we need
some muscle and a walking first aid station to round out the party.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 484  9-Mar-1988  2:57 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS
Subject: [High School Parties] - Reply to # 470

   I always thought the purpose of the useless parties was to get drunk and/or
stoned out of one's gourd in an effort to escape from the daily pressures of
life.  That's why I never bother going to them; at least I can handle my
particular reality.

          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 485  9-Mar-1988  4:04 P.M.
Public message on Steak & Cheese Sub
From: BLACK KNIGHT
To: SOLOMON KANE
Subject: Robert Adams! - Reply to # 464
 I take it that you don't like him?

                    -BK-
 and you put it very well too!!!!!!


Msg # 486  9-Mar-1988  4:33 P.M.
Public message on Games & Games
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: ROBERT ADAMS
Subject: [Jackson] - Reply to # 474

Dear Robert Adams:




     Poof.




          --> Frumpy <--



Msg # 487  9-Mar-1988  4:37 P.M.
Public message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: COUNT ZERO
Subject: [Derec's job]

   Would you rather he was getting a job in order to support a boyfriend?!?!?!?

          --> Frumpy <--




Msg # 488  9-Mar-1988  4:39 P.M.
Private message on Transcendental Vibes
From: JILTED FRUMP
To: Derec [The Blank] (Read)
Subject: [Crashing this BBS daily]

   Is it just me, or does this version of Infoquick not like me? Cuz so far
since your last crash (this weekend), it's managed to pack up every time I've
called. I obviously don't mean to, and I'm sorry, but COULD YOU PLEASE GET A
MORE RELIABLE SOFTWARE SOON?

          --> Frumpy <--

<grin>



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From: Bridgewater MA
Interests:
C-128,Mainframes,Infocom,Music,Snorting Jello.
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COUNT ZERO
From: B'Water
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IBM. I like making films, music, love, and toast.
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JOHN SHANAHAN
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LAZARUS LONG
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C-128! S.F.,science,fantasy,role playing,chess,telecom,cash!
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FIRESTARTER
From: dighton,ma
Interests:
64....TRADE!!!!!
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STEVE H.
From: MIDDLEBORO
Interests:
APPLE II e. SKIING, HUNTING, ROCK MUSIC, BOOZE & SEX.
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PROMETHEUS
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Sci-Fi!
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PHILIP BOULDRY JR.
From: E. B.
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C-64. Music, Jesus, Science and/or Fiction
Times logged on: 1
Last time on: 22-Feb-1988 11:59 P.M.

THE FUGITIVE GUY
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C-64. Like Monty, Young Ones, Brady Bunch (?) + Sweet & low
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AQUALUNG
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Sysop of Late Night (946-4941)
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NIGEL INCUBATOR JONES
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BLACK KNIGHT
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Interests:
Com 128 I like to pick on non-active users!
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SPARKY
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Interests:
well i have a ibm,commodore,and like to go to school and bu
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BROTHER JOHN
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128, Telling others about Christ.
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KATHALL
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MAXETTE HEADROOM
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DENNIS PLASKAWISKI
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SCOTT SENA
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I use a 128/1571,and i really get into heavy and speed meta
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LAN<E
From: home
Interests:
my computer is tanish with lots of buttons on it and, oh yes
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JILTED FRUMP
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Interests:
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Times logged on: 21
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THANATOS X. SHADOWSPAWN
From: your mothers bed
Interests:
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JAMASE BROOK HAMSTER
From: London, England
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LAURA
From: ROCKLAND
Interests:
IBM CLONE....MY INTERESTA ARE TOO OBSCURE AND NUMEROUS TO ME
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SOLOMON KANE
From: pembroke
Interests:
I use a c128 I like to read and use the computer
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TANG!
From: A dishwasher
Interests:
Girls, Musick, Electronix, comix, YOUNG ONES!
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MAXWELL
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Use c/128.I like to snort jello and other stuff.Nuf Said
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HYPERMAN
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JIM
From: Pembroke
Interests:
Currently using C-128, About to switch to Amiga.
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LADY JJ
From: Taunton
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Apple //e The Fugitive Guy suggested I call.
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LEADHEAD
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Interests:
c128..i collect weapons run a bbs and have fun playing AD&D
Times logged on: 4
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SAVAGE
From: Gold's Gym, CA
Interests:
CBM 64c - Music - Computers - Wreastling - Drums - Whatever
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KENNETH ELLIS
From: here
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no
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ROBERT ADAMS
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MacSE.Reading.Israel.Zionism.Metaphysics
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MR. WAX
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MEAT MASHER
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Interests:
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ROB
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I'm Useing A Adam Comp,Also Run A BBS (586-7926)Brockton BBS
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ALARM
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AMBIDEXTROUS SHEARS
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KARL LINDFORS
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Interests:
tandy models 3,4,100 ibm clone xt,at--sysop of 996 946-0996
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VICTOR TEIXEIRA
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Interests:
apple ][e
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MR.SANDMAN
From: my freinds house
Interests:
 i use commodore 64 and i like horror movies and soon will s
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MR.PAO
From: Pembroke
Interests:
A C-128 my life is boring and meaningless
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THE JOKER
From: Raynham
Interests:
Apple //c and I like anything!
Times logged on: 1
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FRED KRUEGER
From: N.DIGHTON, MA
Interests:
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THE COMMANDER
From: Easton, Ma.
Interests:
Running C-Net 128 (THE ARCADE SHOP) 238-0983
Times logged on: 2
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JACOB AYANO
From: BROCKTON
Interests:
USE TRS-80 AT HOME AAND IBM AT SCHOOL
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ROGOZHIN @ LENINGRAD
From: Disk Sector #24
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Type RETURN to continue.
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JUDY L
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yellow
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